• SupraMario@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    So 20 from hate crimes? Or just 20 from all violence? Because those who are found out to be LGBTQ+ in the middle east, are killed because they’re LGBTQ+, and often in very violent ways.

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      Some states don’t even have LGBT hate crime legislation, and until recently (like, last year) multiple southern states didn’t. There’s no federal requirement for states to report the number of LGBT hate crimes that happen yearly. So until that change there is no concise way of answering both how many trans people died from general violence and how many from hate crimes. But anyone who thinks the answer to that is zero isn’t paying attention.

      I’m also not sure that the trans people murdered in the US get any solace from ‘only’ being shot or stabbed, or that the distinction helps anyone LGBT in the US or Palestine who is hate crimed.

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          They obviously aren’t the same. Anyone denying that the south is dangerous for LGBT people (trans people particularly) is just fucking stupid.

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            By your logic the entire USA is dangerous to LGBT people, as you said it yourself half happened in the south, but acting like people in the south are hunted down and arrested or murdered is bullshit.

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              If it’s legal for you to piss in public restrooms in all 50 states then I’m really not interested in how hysterical you think someone who can’t do that is being.

              Btw, here’s a story about a trans man who was arrested after being assaulted for following the owner’s instructions on which bathroom to use.

              If you have no idea what kind of issues trans people in the US face on the regular it’s okay to just say that.

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                And I’m not interested in you trying to compare the usa to the middle east. Your article btw has the guy getting arrested because he was drunk and fighting police, not because he was transgender. None of that should have happened at all.

                Just a note, that happened in Ohio, which last I checked wasn’t in the southern US.

                I absolutely know the bullshit trans people go through, I have family and friends who are trans and LGBTQ. It’s a shit world for them right now, but it’s nothing like the middle east.

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                  My man I am trans and from the south. There is not a combination of words you’re going to be able to use to be able to convince me that somehow my entire life experience is wrong and some random cis person on the internet who may or may not have even been to the south actually knows what it’s like better than me, no matter how many LGBT people you know. If you’re such an ally maybe try researching and listening to a trans person who had to flee the south over how dangerous it is to live there as an openly queer person.

                  Your article btw has the guy getting arrested because he was drunk and fighting police

                  Neat how you left out the part where everyone involved was drinking and the only person to get arrested was trans. Wowee, what a coincidence! Such ally! The care you have for the queer people in Palestine and the US who are brutalized is really showing.

                  Do not contact me again.

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                    I’m a minority from the south, who does range days on my own private range for operation blazing sword, and I have family who are LGBTQ+…but sure won’t contact you again.