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      Going solely off your username, no PSN in Poland? Not that anyone should be forced to make a new account for a game they’ve had for months regardless of where they are.

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        It’s not available in any of the baltics countries either so wouldn’t be surprised if it’s not in Poland either.

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    Was the account linking mentionned anywhere on steam?

    It’s really feels like a new condition sneaked in… Edit: apparently it was clearly stated on steam and on the first launch of the game. I really have bad skipping habits…

    The “it’s to protect players against hakerzzzzz” doesn’t feel very legit.

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      This is absolutely a Sony push to get more data the game was released without the need of having a ps account

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          No they don’t?

          Helldivers 2 was produced with a Sony publishing deal, but unless I missed some news, Arrowhead is still independently owned.

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          If you make a PSN account you have to agree to their ToS, which probably lets them do more than a EULA does.

          It also boosts user numbers, which looks good on paper.

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      How else are they going to make their subscription numbers look like they are going up when no one is buying PS5s?

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      If you read the announcement, it’s obviously a very carefully worded prepared statement from Sony that they’ve been given and ordered to pass out. The hackers reasoning is made up and just the best excuse they could come up with, Sony wants more data in their environment and they’re being forced to comply.

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    What a dumb move, timing this with trying to convince people to buy the new warbond. Hopefully Sony reverses this decision after seeing how badly this damages the health of the game.

    Unfortunately for those requesting refunds, unless you’re in an area that’s soon to be excluded, you likely won’t get your money back. The game has had the requirement for the PSN account linking listed on the Steam page since day 1, so it’s unlikely that Valve will do much in this situation.

    Arrowhead isn’t free of guilt in this, but Sony and Valve should have both done a much better job at making this clear to players earlier on, since they’re in charge of marketing/sales on PC. Like, in-game messaging would have been good for this. They also should have never allowed the sale of the game on regions PSN isn’t available to in the first place, since they already knew they would killswitch non-linked accounts eventually.

    What a disappointing day for democracy.

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      Arrowhead isn’t free of guilt in this, but Sony and Valve should have both done a much better job at making this clear to players earlier on, since they’re in charge of marketing/sales on PC.

      Well they kinda did. When you first launched the game it did say that you need a PSN account to play. I know this because that’s when I learned PSN isn’t available in my country. But you were able to skip it and after skipping you never saw this notification again. Valve also has it on the store page “Requires 3rd-Party Account: PlayStation Network (Supports Linking to Steam Account)”, but nobody reads those little notices. I don’t blame anyone for missing that information, especially since not linking PSN accounts has not affected the game for months.

      And if you want a really fun fact. Web archive link because I imagine Sony is going to change it, but on the Playstation website they explicitly state “Signing in to PSN is optional when playing a PlayStation game on PC.”.

      I’m not going to to anything hasty. I hope Sony walks it back because I do enjoy the game, but if by June nothing has changed I will ask a refund from Valve because I’ll literally be unable to play the game, unless I go against PSN ToS. I have no problem getting on the FUCK SONY train once they’ve left me no other choice.

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      Ironically, a feature I wish DRG would add is linking PSN accounts with Steam accounts, and save importing/exporting. I played 300hrs of DRG on PS5 since it was 'free" on PS+. Now I’ve switched to PC so I can play with mods but I’m back at square one with a new save.

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    How kind of them to remind us that a live-service game is still a live-service game, and that arrowhead is still owned by a for-profit corporation.

    I still plan to play, though. Wasn’t account linking already required for crossplay, or was that a separate thing?

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      Are there so many non profit organizations in game development and publishing that a reminder was required?

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        If you take a look at its reception, the community definitely treats it like a major departure from other live service game practices. I’d tend to agree— the price, micro transactions, content and quality all seem very fair compared to other live service games in the space.

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    I don’t own a PlayStation and by extension don’t have an account. So I have to sign up for a service I have no desire for to play?

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    Please inform any inactive / retired Helldivers to ask for a refund if their country does not support a PS account as they should not have been able to play the game in the first place.

    I am unable to verify which countries are affected.

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    I loved this game but PSN isn’t available in Estonia so I’m just locked out a month from now. I don’t even want a refund, I just wanna play with my wife and friends.

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      Yeah. I’ve enjoyed helldivers 2 and this change doesn’t affect me personally, but I really hope they re-consider this change for players like you.

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    Big thanks for sharing this, this is my chance to ask for a refund.

    I like the game’s flavor and I think it’s a good game but I just didn’t get into it.

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      It was expressed that this was required the whole time to be fair, it just want the case

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        See and that’s where they lose me. If it was truly a requirement, why disable it at all? If it’s a requirement now, why could I play before without it? I get the game had network issues when it launched so they disabled the PSN requirements at that time. They could have resolved those network issues without disabling the PSN linking. Convenient that they also sold this game in regions where PSN isn’t available and now those people are just SOL.

        I know legally they’re covered, because they have disclosures on the store page and at the start of the game. I don’t care. Fuck their disclosures. This was a stupid way to handle it. They can have their legal victory, they lost a player anyways.

        All they had to do is make PSN linking optional and this wouldn’t be an issue for the vast majority of people that don’t exactly trust Sony with their data. Not like they’ve had a repeated history of hacks and leaks of PSN customer data.