Eh, there’s a lot that could be said about Helldivers, at least as a PC port.
Great game, nice content delivery, very cool. No DLSS, no modern FSR (it straight up uses an horrendous implementation of FSR 1.0), very bad usage of multiple threads, quite a few bugs - the armour ratings literally did not work, as in, a crucial feature of the game that changes the entire balancing of gear and enemies did not apply, meaning you could have a party of a heavy gear tank and light gear medic and both would take the same damage from the same enemies.
Again, the game itself is very fun. But I’m absolutely not going to praise this port and claim it’s a shining example of developer quality.
Releasing a perfect game that doesn’t have any bugs isn’t what the article is about.
It’s talking about teams that have honed their craft over many years of developing titles they cared about working on and investing in continuous improvements, of which both Arrowhead and Larian have done.
That’s true for virtually every game. Diablo IV: hated by many, considered a major downgrade, Blizzard bad, gets boring, doesn’t handle live content updates right… yet go watch the videos with the team that designed the dungeons and the assets, they’re extremely passionate, they are proud of their work, they explain how they spent a looooong time just working on little details they thought people would appreciate.
It’s super unfair to raise Helldivers and Baldur’s Gate to this elevated “worthy passionate developer” status and disregard others while, at the same time, being selectively blind about the issues both of these games had and still have. In fact, Baldur’s Gate straight up required months of Microsoft intervention to finally (partially!) fix CPU affinity issues.
you can be incredibly passionate while still having mbas breathing down your neck
if you don’t think there was a ratio of developers to neck-breathers of at best 2:1 at blizzard you have more faith in their internal management than me
if you respond to “touch grass” with anything along the lines of an imperious “hah what fallacious and illogical reasoning” while pushing up your glasses on the bridge of your nose like an anime villain, then yes i think it might be meadow time for you
I know this is tangential to the argument at hand, but you guys reminded me I really need to touch grass, I’ve been buried in way too much work. I think I’m going to drive out to the coast and stare at the waves for 30 min today.
yeah but ultimately it doesn’t matter because the end product is good on the whole
i feel those kinds of details are exactly what meddlers would want to meddle in, when the entire argument of the article is that the game manages to be good on the whole not despite its lack of meddlers but because of it
Eh, there’s a lot that could be said about Helldivers, at least as a PC port.
Great game, nice content delivery, very cool. No DLSS, no modern FSR (it straight up uses an horrendous implementation of FSR 1.0), very bad usage of multiple threads, quite a few bugs - the armour ratings literally did not work, as in, a crucial feature of the game that changes the entire balancing of gear and enemies did not apply, meaning you could have a party of a heavy gear tank and light gear medic and both would take the same damage from the same enemies.
Again, the game itself is very fun. But I’m absolutely not going to praise this port and claim it’s a shining example of developer quality.
Releasing a perfect game that doesn’t have any bugs isn’t what the article is about.
It’s talking about teams that have honed their craft over many years of developing titles they cared about working on and investing in continuous improvements, of which both Arrowhead and Larian have done.
That’s true for virtually every game. Diablo IV: hated by many, considered a major downgrade, Blizzard bad, gets boring, doesn’t handle live content updates right… yet go watch the videos with the team that designed the dungeons and the assets, they’re extremely passionate, they are proud of their work, they explain how they spent a looooong time just working on little details they thought people would appreciate.
It’s super unfair to raise Helldivers and Baldur’s Gate to this elevated “worthy passionate developer” status and disregard others while, at the same time, being selectively blind about the issues both of these games had and still have. In fact, Baldur’s Gate straight up required months of Microsoft intervention to finally (partially!) fix CPU affinity issues.
you can be incredibly passionate while still having mbas breathing down your neck
if you don’t think there was a ratio of developers to neck-breathers of at best 2:1 at blizzard you have more faith in their internal management than me
You need to touch grass I think.
Great argument!
Somewhere along the way I lost the verve to argue about this kind of thing. It’s not that I can’t, I just don’t care anymore
Edit: The guy below me has a valid point. Ignore this comment.
Then why are you here, trying to start arguments?
if you respond to “touch grass” with anything along the lines of an imperious “hah what fallacious and illogical reasoning” while pushing up your glasses on the bridge of your nose like an anime villain, then yes i think it might be meadow time for you
I have no idea how to respond to this lol, I couldn’t understand a single phrase on this comment. What’s anything got to do with anime here?
I know this is tangential to the argument at hand, but you guys reminded me I really need to touch grass, I’ve been buried in way too much work. I think I’m going to drive out to the coast and stare at the waves for 30 min today.
It’s using an ancient discontinued engine. Hopefully we see improvements with time
Those are a feature.
yeah but ultimately it doesn’t matter because the end product is good on the whole
i feel those kinds of details are exactly what meddlers would want to meddle in, when the entire argument of the article is that the game manages to be good on the whole not despite its lack of meddlers but because of it