• HubertManne@kbin.social
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          7 months ago

          if a worker loses money they risk becoming a poorer worker. is the worked paid? do they have money? what level of money makes one a capitalist? in your world. I had someone else come along with similar concerns but they seemed to just be talking about corporations which I kinda get then but commerce happens on all levels.

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            7 months ago

            Workers work for wages, Capitalists recieve profits off of ownership. This isn’t “my” world, this is the world.

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              7 months ago

              so workers do not own anything they make profit off of? Like a car they use to do uber rides? in this world. that is what you think? you think that is reality?

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                Uber drivers are gig workers, and firmly in the Proletariat. They ultimately use and depend on Uber’s infrastructure and Capital. Owning a car for personal use and also using it for your job you work for a wage for does not mean you profit off of ownership in the manner a Capitalist profits off the work of others.

                This is, in fact, reality.

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                  Ill accept it for the arguments sake. How about a homeowner that rents out a room and they only advertised with a sign in the window they bought themselves. They also have a job keep in mind. The rent from the room does not exactly pay all their needs it just offsets the mortgage. Are they workers?

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                    Petite bourgeoisie. Capitalists that do not drive enough income to survive without working. It’s a bit muddier than this, with respect to their personal job their power dynamic is clearly Proletarian, but they are attempting to escape that dynamic and become full bourgeois via landlording.