• Maggoty@lemmy.world
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    To be fair. “that wasn’t true Communism” is true. The problem is dictatorships keep getting sold with its name. Ironically proving how hard it would be to actually achieve a world or country of communes.

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      Except those people prefer the Chinese and USSR style of social autocracies to actual socialist projects. Some of them even trash worker coops, although that was more true to the InfraHaz style lolcows than the tankies of lemmy…

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        Social Autocracy, oh wow that’s a new one on me. They’re just brutal dictatorships with a shiny veneer.

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          I call any dictatorships that barely does anything more than the Baltic states, while calling themselves as “socialists”.

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            I think it gives them too much credit. They might give you housing but they’ll kill you in the middle of the night because someone gave your name to stop the torture.

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      The only kind of Communism I’m willing to accept is the Star Trek Communism. Until then I’m pro Team “Social market economy”!

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        Fully Automated Gay Space Communism or bust!

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        I’m with you there. If we get poop->food magic machines then all bets are off. Until then we need a democratic state to prevent abuse.

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      Right, the problem is they turn around and defend the dictatorship because obviously Marxism cannot survive less you continuously sanitize the marketplace of ideas.

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        Well their version can’t at any rate. I’d say Marxism can’t survive violence in the ideas market.

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          Oh? Are there no countries with state ownership of industry?

          If that’s your criteria, then yes, there are both truly communist and truly capitalist countries.

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            Tell me which country claiming to be communist is not actually just a dictatorship with a veneer?

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              None? That was like 200% sarcasm. You used a single criteria to mark countries as truly capitalist, so I though I might as well do the same.