• andrew@lemmy.stuart.fun
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    The workplace, or at least career progression, is like 50% politics lol. Google is no different.

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      In fact, I’ve heard Google is especially bad here. You only get ahead by shipping a product, and getting a project approved is largely politicking. It’s one of the more political business environments around.

      My company seems a lot better. We don’t have aggressive ladder climbing like the big tech firms, we instead value consistency.

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        You only get ahead by shipping a product, and getting a project approved is largely politicking

        Yep - I had a friend who worked for three years at Google, none of the products he worked on ever shipped and eventually he gave up on ever receiving a good salary (bonuses/stock options/etc are supposed to be most of the pay, but you only get that by working on a successful product)

        They have ten major campuses worldwide that focus on product development, but only one of those actually ships products regularly.

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    Oh good, so Google has stopped all political donations and canceled all government contracts so they can stay out politics?

    No? Ok fuck you.

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    Ok, so if I find out I work for Nazi contractor and object to that, it is politics?

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      Discussing politics at the work place has been an HR violation for some time, but speaking against the company policy or its customers has always been a fireable ofense. I’m not sure why this surprises anyone.

      Sure, google is an evil corporation and there’s lots of reasons to hate them, but why are we focusing on this specific thing which is common across all workplaces?

      And yes, if you find out your employer is constructing concentration camps and you openly speak against that, you’re probably going to lose your job. Why is this even a question?

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          Lol you’re getting tossed in jail doing this in a communist society…this isn’t about capitalism at all. It’s about keeping people from creating a hostile work environment, look how polarized politics is online, shit gets heated in a work setting? It’s a no go for any sane company wanting to keep the peace between employees.

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            If the employees owned the firm, then no they are not.

            Authoritarian Communism? Yup, it sucks too and I’d call that out.

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              There isn’t anything stopping workers now from creating employee own companies. They exist today.

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            I think maybe you’re conflating capitalism and politics.

            The need for workers to voice out against company policies and actions often necessary for safety of workers, customers, etc. This is required for capitalism to work to any standard.

            Its not hard to see how firing employees for noting safety problems can cause problems. The obvious case for this is Boeing where they started punishing people for doing basic quality control work.

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        Discussing politics at the work place has been an HR violation for some time, but speaking against the company policy or its customers has always been a fireable ofense. I’m not sure why this surprises anyone.

        Looks like a navel-gazing USA thing. Here in Europe I cannot imagine that there’s many companies who’d fire workers for protesting or tells them to shut up forever.

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          You should be aware of the fact that Google & the others have offices in Europe and they have the same policy here too. These type of policies fit well within the legal framework in most EU countries. And I guarantee that people would get fired over protests disrupting the workplace if found unwarranted.

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        Not being able to discuss politics at work is not really the case for everyone though, it’s worker politics that aren’t allowed, if the politics agree with the owner class they’ll set up a PAC for it. Whoever heard of an executive or board member fired for discussing politics that paint the organization in a positive light? I also think it’s worth pointing out most companies would fire for this and are authoritative in structure and don’t allow for democratic practices like elections, petitioning, protesting, etc. Just because it’s that way now doesn’t mean it always will be with good labor protections.

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      Yes. What about that do you think is non-political? Abhorrent politics are still politics.

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        Really great point that adds a ton to the conversation. Clearly the semantics of the word “political” are what’s important here.

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    “The workplace isn’t for politics” is about social etiquette, not criticizing what your own company is taking part in you stupid fuck.

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    “Google isnt the place for your politics. It is only a place for my politics. So get in line with my thinking or get the fuck out!” - Googles Chief Cunt.

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    google the company needs to be garroted with their old “don’t be evil” line.

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      Don’t be evil tell me your opinions

      Don’t ask don’t tell in corporate form!

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    The little-known genocide assistance exception to “don’t be evil.” You have to read the fine print these days.

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        If I’m not mistaken there’s a more long winded watered down version at the end of a bunch of bs now. I may be misremembering or out of the loop on subsequent updates and changes though

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          Yes it’s still there, it was just moved, albeit from a very noticeable position to quite an obscure one.

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            Gotcha. Yeah thats more or less how I remembered it… 🙃

            Its a bummer, I used to consider myself a fan of Google’s direction. But lesson learned I suppose, money is power and power corrupts.

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    Again the excuse of ‘no politics’

    YOU CAN’T AVOID POLITICS

    Accepting contracts from Israel is just as political as denying contracts from Israel. You just stated your political stance by accepting. Why do people think it’s a free copout?

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    Weird how all the right wingers that constantly yell about how silencing nazis is censorship are suddenly very quiet when a ceo comes out and explicitly says you will be fired for your speech.

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    Everything is politics, especially the mega corpos that lobbies the governments of the world.

    The only problem is that many people can’t afford to be fired because of them.