The situation at Columbia has even drawn the attention of the White House, joining local leaders in urging calm.

“While every American has the right to peaceful protest, calls for violence and physical intimidation targeting Jewish students and the Jewish community are blatantly antisemitic, unconscionable, and dangerous,” White House spokesperson Andrew Bates said in a statement shared with CNN on Sunday.

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    Demanding a ceasefire is not equal to antisemitism. These dumbass politicians can’t fucking figure that out.

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      It’s crazy because all these people saying that “genocide is bad” is antisemitic are really saying that Jews have a genetic predisposition toward commiting genocide, which is actually really fucking antisemitic.

      In case anyone’s still unclear:

      Disliking someone because they are Jewish is antisemitic.

      Disliking someone because they are commiting genocide is actually a good thing.

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      It’s antizionism, which zionists try their best to conflait with antisemitism because they need a shield for their shitty actions.

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    Sooo… where’s the antisemitism these liberal pundits are all getting hysterical about and wants to pretend poses some kind of “antisemitic” threat to Jewish people at this university?

    Oh, right… here it is.

    “Columbia students organizing in solidarity with Palestine – including Jewish students – have faced harassment, doxxing, and now arrest by the NYPD. These are the main threats to the safety of Jewish Columbia students,” Jonathan Ben-Menachem, a PhD student, told CNN.

    Ie, all the antisemitism is coming from the usual sources - the US political establishment, it’s pet media and it’s goon squads.

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            Right, Judaism is so “western” that it existed long before the west existed. Much “western.”

            I’d say I’m sorry that obvious historical fact disturbs so many liberals - but I won’t. Because I’m not.

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              I’m sorry your hot take is what here exactly? Antisemitism didn’t exist before the cultural concept of ‘the west’? Because that’s just patently false

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                You do understand that we can track where antisemitism comes from, right? Even all the way past the Spanish Reconquista and the subsequent instututionalization of the very first race laws?

                White supremacism and antisemitism is as fundamental to “western civilization” as… well - I guess there really isn’t anything else to “western civilization,” is there? And that includes the liberalism that’s overflowing here on lemmy.world.

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                  I never said the west didnt/doesn’t practice antisemitism, but to call a “Western invention” is patently false. And just sprinkling “liberalism” throughout your comments doesn’t make you sound like an enlightened leftist, it makes you sound uneducated. You can’t even identify it and you’re just calling people liberals left and right lmao. How can Judaism simultaneously both predate the West and antisemitism be invented by the west? Antisemitism has existed since the beginning, literally in their own books.

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    The double standard is that in this case, they say "calls for violence and physical intimidation targeting Jewish students and the Jewish community are blatantly antisemitic, unconscionable, and dangerous”, while in this case

    https://edition.cnn.com/2023/10/12/business/harvard-doxxing-truck-israel-hamas-statement/index.html

    no action was taken, and later Claudine Gay resigned. What’s ironic though is that with the doxxing truck

    The University’s Hillel, its Jewish student organization, condemned the billboard truck and attempts to intimidate signatories.

    “Harvard Hillel strongly condemns any attempts to threaten and intimidate co-signatories of the Palestine Solidarity Committee’s statement, including the bus on campus displaying the names and faces of students affiliated with the groups who have signed it,” the organization said in a statement posted on its website.

    The OP article is about antisemitism and it looks like Zionists use of Jews as human shields is working.

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    I do not envy Jewish students right now.

    They have spent their life being told, like I was, from their parents and grandparents that if there is no Israel, the Holocaust would happen again and they personally would be put in a death camp.

    At the same time, they see Israel’s apartheid state and now the genocide it is committing.

    Even though I have been very vocally against both of these things for many years, I still have to headcheck myself sometimes when seeing a rightful criticism of Israel just because I was told for 18 years of my life that Israel was the only thing stopping Nazis from rising up again and killing me.

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        Thanks. Oddly enough, these same parents and grandparents who taught me this also taught me to be open to other perspectives. They just had a huge blind spot.

        I honestly don’t blame my dad and grandparents. They lived in London during WWII, just waiting for the Nazis to invade and kill them. They were incredibly paranoid about it. But I didn’t live through that, so I did not share their fear. My mom, who’s American like I am, stays quiet about her opinions about Israel and I’m not going to push her on it.

        I’m more worried about being thrown into a concentration camp by Trump than by any Palestinian. And not even necessarily because I’m Jewish.