• archomrade [he/him]@midwest.social
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    in recent history preceding the great ideological shifts of party banners

    How old are you?

    A lot of us consider 1994 to be pretty recent but maybe not to the younger crowd

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      Does it really matter to the point being made?

      Oh man, how far we’ve come in 30 years. I really am quite proud of the Democratic party.

      On the flipside, Republicans have if anything continued to regress.

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        Does it really matter to the point being made?

        Idk? What point is being made? That Democrats took a modest aesthetic step toward fixing a problem they helped create? A problem that runs much deeper than the scheduling of drugs and a problem that destroyed entire communities of color?

        I’m not interested in engaging in a debate with you, I just think it’s important to recognize the depth of the issues being discussed and be skeptical of the accomplishments being touted during an election year.

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          Being the sole gateway through which Marijuana legalization has occurred is a, “modest aesthetic”?

          LOL.

          Of course you’re not interested, because you know you’ve got nothing. And yet, here you are.

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            Being the sole gateway through which Marijuana legalization has occurred is a, “modest aesthetic”?

            What an incredibly shallow understanding of a deeply impactful issue.

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              My thoughts exactly.

              But then really, what more is there to get?

              • We’re in a thread about a concern-troll criticizing Biden for not doing MORE on Marijuana decriminalization.
              • I point to the fact that literally all Marijuana legalization efforts have stemmed from Democrats.
              • And since we know Republicans will do nothing on this and in fact take us backwards in most cases, there really isn’t a further point to be made.
              • Thus, within the given context, calling Democrats’ action on Marijuan legalization, decriminalization, and outright pardoning of offenders a “modest aesthetic” is gross euphemism.
              • It is, of course, conveniently never enough with folks; and to that I point to the famed adage, “never left perfection get in the way of progress.”
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                Biden hasn’t done enough, though. For the amount of damage criminalization has done, tossing out a few pardons does comparatively nothing for those lives ruined by being pressured into pleas under threats of federal criminal possession charges, the lives of children who went without their fathers and entire neighborhoods destroyed by over policing, all of which was caused by laws Biden himself wrote and sponsored. Especially when he has opposed legalization legislation proposed by his own party

                But that’s ‘not relevant’ to someone who’s only point is essentially “it’s better than Republicans 🤷‍♂️”

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                  Biden can’t do more. History aside, he has shifted his stance since. However, he is not a dictator.

                  The solution is pretty simple, really: Vote Democrat; vote out Republicans — then watch Biden be able to pass what has already been introduced by Democrats.

                  So yes, it really is as simple as, “Democrats are FAR better than Republicans.”

                  After all, when it comes to decriminalization, I can now smoke weed if I want to — thank a Democratic liberal.

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      Asking how old someone is completely defeats the purpose. We’ve seen how boomers mishandled things and pulled the ladders up behind them so let’s not pretend that being old and remembering 1994 “like it was pretty recent” (it wasn’t) makes your opinion in any way superior.

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        It’s relevant and recent when the majority of the legislators who passed the law are still in congress

        We’ve seen how boomers mishandled things and pulled the ladders up behind them

        That’s exactly my point. We’re still living in the reality of laws passed by boomers - hell, we’re still being governed by them. That reality doesn’t just go away when the boomers acknowledge they fucked it up, they have to actually fix their shit.