• yesman@lemmy.world
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    Reading through these comments it seems that many lemmings have wildly optimistic ideals about ethics in the “true crime” genre of documentaries.

    Even for sincere documentarians, presenting unvarnished history accurately and completely is an impossibility. For the bad-faith actors, you’d be amazed at how much is outright staged or otherwise faked. The only rule is that it be entertaining.

    As far as “true crime”, the question of “should we even make this” is pretty ethically fraught. True crime is cheap, popular, and stuffed to the brim with hacks and bad faith actors.

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    A proof of concept documentary about how fabricated evidence could be used to promote a fringe theory or even convict would be way cool.

    How Jennifer shot JFK

    Dunno if this is that.

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    Yes there are re-enactments in documentaries but this was using actual photos of the subject. I def have a problem with that. It’s exploitive at the very least and reminds of the AI shitshow to come. Disclosure should be on the damn picture itself, not in the credits.

    Re-enactments have actors and no one confuses them for the actual subjects. If you dont have enough material, don’t make a ‘true crime documentary’.

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      okay, so, yes, its not ‘true’, and the crime its about didn’t actually ‘happen’, but everyone knows’ true crime’ is a genre defined by its aesthetics and ‘grittiness’ and being very cheap to produce, so we here at Netflix believe we’re being true to the highest ideals and aesthetics of the genre.

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      They might not be mistaken for the actual people in the case, but they certainly get beleived as 100% accurate reenactments.

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      We call that bullshit where I come from. Either it’s historical or it’s fiction. Fiction can be done in an historical setting, but is never historical itself.

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        In the U.K. there’s a law (perhaps it’s an agreement between the broadcasters, no sure) to display a P in the corner of the screen when there’s product placements. So every time someone takes a phone out in a soap opera, the little P appears. Hilarious how ALL the characters in Hollyoaks chose Windows Mobile for a while.

        Perhaps we ought to require the same for AI generated media.

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    Are the images clearly labeled, or are they trying to pass them off as reality? There’s a clear difference.

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    Is it just me, or is everyone here commenting on a half article, the other half being behind a paywall? 😬

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      Yeah I couldn’t read the whole article, so what I’d want to know is if the AI generated images were shown with a disclosure or not. Because that changes everything…

      Edit: apparently there was no disclosure in the movie, which is the problem

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        If there was a disclosure, that would be fine. Documentaries used actors, reenactments, illustrations, 3D generated content, etc. before. If it helps viewers visualize the topic, it is fine. If it skews the story to push a theory of the documentary, that’s not fine.

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          I think we can all agree on that… But without the entire article, one can only parametrise their answer… I was hoping someone with a full version could do an HTML dump. 😅

          Or at the very least a markdown dump in here.

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      In my experience, most just read the headline. That’s why the tldr bot is so important and most subs banning it are just doing the community a disservice.

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    Fuck all these disgusting true crime documentaries regardless whether or not they use AI