• @Wild_Mastic@lemmy.world
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    Btw you can do it also in Germany more or less.

    I believe it’s possible also in France .

    Edit: don’t want to insult anyone, I was just curious, nothing else.

    • @Vespair@lemm.ee
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      Yes, those are countries, not single states within a country. Different things.

      edit: ya’ll are acting so fucking weird in this comment thread. Jesus Christ I don’t even give a shit about the size of America or the US/EU pissing contest, I was merely and correctly pointing out the non-equivalence of the items being compared. Holy shit get a fucking life if you give two shits about the topic itself, goddamn. The hate boner some of you have for one country or another to the point of spite downvoting and intentionally misinterpreting shit is fucking ridiculous.

      • ares35
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        french guiana is part of france, and the eu.

        • @nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          New York to Hawaii can be a 13 hour flight depending on the Island you wanna land on. Alaska to Miami is similar and even drivable. Fairbanks to Miami is a brisk 77 hour drive.

        • teft
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          So is Réunion. Shall we count the time to take a boat to the island or just a flight?

        • @Vespair@lemm.ee
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          Yes, how is this relevant? The point is they were comparing the length of time to cross a single American state to the time to cross an entire country, which are two different things. Driving through Texas isn’t equivalent to driving through Germany, it’s equivalent to driving through Bavaria.

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            It is because most of the EU participates in an agreement without hard borders and is united by a larger entity that collects taxes and holds elections in its states/countries.

            The degree of federalism is higher in the USA than Europeans think it is. After all, each American state has at least one army.

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              Ah, in that case, no, you’re still wrong and we are not anything like the EU, not really. The of autonomy and sovereignty each member of the EU has is vastly different, and mostly vastly greater, than that of each of the individual states of America. Again, the correct equivalence isn’t America = EU, it’s America = Germany and Texas = Bavaria. Hope that helps.

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        About your edit, that’s why I added the disclaimer on my first comment lol. I fully knew it would degenerate in a biggest dick contest and wanted to avoid being part of it.

        • @Vespair@lemm.ee
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          I sincerely wish I had your wisdom and foresight. I just can’t imagine caring the way these people seem to care.

    • The Picard ManeuverOP
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      In addition to the other comment about it being a single state within the US, we’re also talking about roughly 1500-1600 kilometers in the Texas map. It would mostly be 70-75mph (120kph) highways the whole way.

      • Pelicanen
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        May I present Kiruna to Trelleborg (1882 km) in Sweden? Map of Sweden showing path from Kiruna to Trelleborg with the text 21 hours and 40 minutes

    • teft
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      My question is how much of that is highway travel and/or straight? In the Texas map most of that travel will be highways at 80mph. I know Germany has the autobahn but living in Colombia has made me suspicious of long travel times which actually have short distances traveled since this country is very mountainous and I don’t think a straight road exists here.

      • HobbitFoot
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        1/3 to 1/2 of the Texas trip will be interstate highways. The rest is mixed bag of divided highways with at grade crossings and two lane highways.

      • @MrMakabar@slrpnk.net
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        Nearly all of it is Autobahn. It is basically just road work slowing you down and even that is not too bad.

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      Just for funsies I looked it up and Miami FL to Seattle WA is a 48 hour drive. Longest I found within the continental US upon a quick googling of recognizable cities.

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      Ops post would be more effective by stating average speed.

    • HobbitFoot
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      Yeah, but you aren’t driving that fast in Germany, apparently. The Texas trip will be over 1,400 km.

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          If the Texas Trip is near the speed of the German trip, it is likely that the German trip isn’t taking place on the Autobahn.

    • @uis@lemm.ee
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      Since we are doing whole countries, you can drive for 138 hours from Ruasia and still be in Russia:

      I can’t even zoom out enough.

      EDIT: you can drive in Russia without leaving it for 161 hours:

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    Yep, I cannot comprehend how there is so much space allocated to so few people and they still drown in one fucking housing crisis after another.

    If you are going to gobble up that much space for yourselves on this planet that we all share, stop fucking around and put it to good use!

    • AFK BRB Chocolate
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      The housing crisis has zero to do with available space, except that in the hubs of industry, like silicon valley, there are more people wanting to live there than there’s space. That’s not true across the country.

      But no one is going to build a house in the middle of nowhere to help with housing because (a) hardly anyone wants to live in the middle of nowhere, away from all the jobs, and (b) the people building housing are motivated to get as much money as they can.

      We as a society could 100% solve the housing crisis, but it involves socialism, not capitalism, which a lot of Americans still have a problem with. The solution isn’t constrained by space, which the US has tons of.

      • themeatbridge
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        It wouldn’t even be that much socialism. Just a smidgen of housing regulations and zoning. Limit corporate ownership and rental profiteering, like any responsible capitalist democracy should with any industry.

        The problem is that an entire generation of homeowners wanted to ride the wave of residential deregulation like a fly on a windshield. Wheeee look at our property values skyrocket! We can retire on the capital gains alone! Fuck the next generation, what did they ever do for us?

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        I’m all for the socialism, but could we also get the homestead act back? Free land and a grant to build a house if we’re willing to go rural as fuck and grow our own food. Maybe combine with eco friendly stuff. Have to build a cob house, must use ecologically safe farming techniques.

      • Norgur
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        Nothing. I didn’t say it was, did I? I just said that the US has an awful lot of space on this planet that is home to all of us and still can’t manage to house people.

        Come to think of it, I said everything besides space was the issue, didn’t I?

    • @jaspersgroove@lemm.ee
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      Are you suggesting that more people should live in Texas? I don’t think this is the humanitarian viewpoint that you seem to think it is lol.

      • Norgur
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        I’m saying that people should live in geographic place that is Texas, not necessarily in the political construct that is Texas. Because I wouldn’t want to live in the latter either.

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          I don’t even know if I agree with that, it’s mostly desert or at the very least incredibly arid. It’ll end up being even worse than Southern California or Nevada, massive amounts of people pulling water from an aquifer too small to sustain them.

          People need to live in areas that have the resources to support them.

  • @Hugh_Jeggs@lemm.ee
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    Texas is about the size of France you daft cunts. You just can’t drive there quicker because your infrastructure is so fucked 😂

    A French person takes the high speed train lmao

    • @Coasting0942@reddthat.com
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      high speed train

      lol, those trains are meant for cargo and military jeeps you non-American. You gotta use the highways like god intended.

    • @bassomitron@lemmy.world
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      I agree, our infrastructure is definitely fucked. But the US has ~10 million sq km of space to France’s ~552,000 sq km.

        • @bassomitron@lemmy.world
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          Right, but they were the ones comparing a country to a state to begin with, so I compared a country to a country. If you want to compare continents… That’s a different story.

    • @CluelessDude@lemmy.zip
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      I’m conflicted is comparing a whole country travel distance to a state the same or I’m missing something? Genuinely curious. If we are talking about size of just a state do we Europeans have anything close to it?

      • @dmrzl@programming.dev
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        To be honest in my head US state == country in Europe and USA == EU. Both are unions of states - one of them is just younger and less binding.

        • JokeDeity
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          Similar, absolutely, but there’s a LOT more uniformity to states in the US than member states of the EU. Every state speaks English, every state has the same laws generally speaking for about 90% of things, etc.

          • @dmrzl@programming.dev
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            Yeah, that’s what I meant by binding. Just wanted to say that it is not really surprising that the majority of Europeans in these comments compare US states to EU countries.

      • @Atomic@sh.itjust.works
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        Us is nothing but a bunch of smaller states that formed under a united government.

        Not much unlike the entire principle of EU

        • @desconectado@lemm.ee
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          What no… What are you talking about? EU is not even close to the government structure of the US. Starting that each EU country has their own military, and the EU president has absolutely no power on each of the EU members military.

    • @Shou@lemmy.world
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      Drove from normandy through belgium to the netherlands. Can confirm. We saw traffic jams unlike ever before. Tried to take a shortcut, but ended up in Brussel’s airport. Later after some redirections, we almost ended up in antwerpen airport too. Nothing there makes sense. Not even the parking lots.

  • @DJDarren@thelemmy.club
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    Here in the UK I could spend 13 hours on the M25 and would have only gone four junctions. The American mind cannot comprehend this.

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      I, a German, am also struggling with travel times/distances in Britain.

      Me: (looks at map) I should be there in 1h tops.

      Hours pass…

      Me: I’m only half way there? WTF!

    • Captain Aggravated
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      You can do the same thing a few different ways on I-40. For real along a stretch in New Mexico and Texas, there’s very little between Santa Rosa and Amarillo. You can also do it here on the east coast, if you do about 40 laps of Raleigh, 25 if one of those hours is between 5 and 6 pm.

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      We have that in Texas too.

      There are millions of cars in the Austin area, and at any given time all of them are on Mopac.

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      To be fair, this Finnish trip is a solid 70 km shorter than the Texas trip, Google is just predicting it will take you longer.

      The east-west trip in Texas from Orange to El Paso is 1380 km, but only takes about 12.5 hours because a big chunk of the highway has an 80 mph (130 kph) speed limit

      • @olutukko@lemmy.world
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        But the finnish trip is 1387 km, from orange to el paso trough san antonio 1373 km. So the finnish fastest route is longer in length too. But yeah we don’t have as fast highways whicg makes the trip way longer in time

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          Sure, but really from the Louisiana border to the New Mexico border along that route is 1419 km. This morning it says that’ll take just over 13 hours because you’d hit rush hour traffic in Houston

    • @nyctre@lemmy.world
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      Yup. And Norway is even longer if for some reason that’s not enough. In the UK you can also make a 1000+ km trip from north to south, same in France, Italy, Germany or Ukraine. In Turkey you can even leave Europe, drive 12 more hours and still be in Turkey.

    • @Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de
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      americans love to completely fucking forget the nordics exist, as if we’re not more rural than large parts of the US lmao, and yet we’re able to have trains and other good things.

      I think american conservatives just hate our existence for proving their shitty opinions wrong

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        Funny, we have similar distances in India it seems but with travel times on Google Maps mentioned in days instead of hours thanks to our excellent roads

        • @ForgottenUsername@lemmy.world
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          Everything’s bigger in Texas, except WA that shit is huge…!

          Initially I did Kununurra to Eucla which is approx 40hrs, but you can do it in 38 hrs if you go through the territory and SA. In the efforts of keeping things fair and saying in the same state such as the OP, Esperance seemed to prove the point. There’s defs longer commutes, but shy of triple seemed to be enough to prove a point.

          PS love the username

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            Kununurra to Eucla is 40 hours, suprisingly it’s 3 hours quicker to go through northern territory and south Australia.

            Cheers, thought I’d let them know who they’re arguing with.

      • Cris
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        I mean in fairness Australia is a whole ass country

        Edit: today I learned Australia also has states :)

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      Same goes for Alaska/Canada/Russia/China. This meme must have been made by stereotypical self centered texan lmao

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    Not even the longest route within one state by a long shot:

    As usual, California beats Texas

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    All these guys are posting crossing their whole country, but as Texas is one state, it’s fair to say that’s the same as a province.

    Shared route From Windsor, Ontario to Kenora, Ontario via ON-401 E.

    23 hr 6 min (2,190 km) For the best route in current traffic visit https://maps.app.goo.gl/Jmm9TmKVu79bTANq5

    Staying only within Ontario, Canada it takes almost one full day of literally non stop driving.

    • @Eranziel@lemmy.world
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      Best I can find in Canada is in BC. I think you could get longer distances in a few other provinces, but the issue is a lack of roads/destinations in the northern corners, haha.

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        That is a respectable size and to you sir I can only say what any man can say in this situation.

        It’s not about the size, but how you use it. ;-)

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      Someone travelling from Windsor would almost certainly take the shorter 17hr trip through the states. Still a long one.

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      The 51st state is part of the USA, that’s the whole point of this post. The Euros just can’t grasp the size.

      I guess I missed the /s

      Did no one get the 51st state joke…

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          Your history lesson for today is looking up when Canada became the 51st state…and realize I was being sarcastic.

        • But that’s crossing a country. Texas is a state. Going from San Diego to Portland, Maine is ~46 hours, and that’s probably not the longest route. There’s also Alaska and Hawaii (no direct roads to the contiguous 48 states), and Florida, that’s just a pretty long route off the top of my head.

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            Your geography lesson for today is to map 2 routes across the EU and compare them to your statement.

            1. Map the longest route across the continental EU.
            2. Connect the farthest points of France by way of Paris and compare it to the distance between Hawaii and New York. (Hint: Start is in South America or the Caribbean and finish is in the Pacific. )