• mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
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    I don’t even get “did you mean” anymore. Just, we found more examples of this, so this must be what you meant.

    Even DuckDuckGo straight-up tells you “we didn’t find many results containing [blank].” Yeah. That’s why I wrote [blank.]

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      “There are a lot of results that aren’t what you’re looking for.”

      Okay, great?

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          So that “here’s irrelevant results” tactic must keep people engaged more than “tough luck, found nothing”. My takeaway based on that assumption is that people must suck at using search, unless we think we don’t want those irrelevant results but really they jog our memories or something 51% of the time…

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            Hadn’t considered that search engines would ruin themselves to feed Engagemagog, but in hindsight it’s hardly surprising.

            That’d also explain when you show up on a front page or focus on a search bar, evanescent outline of a thought trying to take form through your fingertips, and the stupid goddamn website goes Football scores?! Celebrity babies?! Dearborn Michigan?! Large Hadron Collider?! Houseboats?!?!

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              Hey, eerbody else is searching The Kardashians* today so maybe you should too!

              *to be replaced with non-aged cultural reference

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                Those last three were real examples when I checked Google just now. They’re not relevant to anything or anywhere in my life. I don’t even get it. I can’t imagine how they’re some hot new thing, today specifically. If they were just trying to shotgun people’s hyperfixations, there’d be more about transportation infrastructure and gacha games.

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                  Interesting, the first two of the final three terms are in the news right now:

                  Houseboat is somewhat surprising. They have made some San Francisco Bay news in the past week:

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    For those looking for some Google alternatives:

    • Qwant has a custom indexing strategy and is okay
    • Brave Search ~uses Google and Bing~ EDIT: they use a custom index too
    • Startpage uses Google and Bing and it’s prettier than Brave IMO
    • SearX is ugly but has a lot of sources
    • Perplexity AI tracks the shit out of you but it’s decent
    • Kagi is customizable but it costs you

    Feel free to add on any I missed or opinions on these; I haven’t used any extensively

    EDIT: Ecosia for trees and DDG for Bing without ads

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      Brave uses its own index. It used to be supplemented with results from other engines but I believe they have now phased that out.

      Brave is the best of the free options in my experience, and it supports “bangs” which let’s you send your querry to a different engine (typing “how far is it to the sun !g” will pass the search to google. Duckduckgo also supports bangs), this is especially helpful for image searches (!gi for google images) since braves image search sucks dogshit 😅

      Quant seemed like the second best free option in my experience. Some people don’t like brave as a company for various reasons, so quant may be a good option for those folks. Its my understanding that Mozilla has worked with quant in some way, which is kinda neat.

      Both have their own index making them a sustainable/viable option going forward, where meta search engines that use other engine’s results are at the whim of those they fetch the results from (but may provide better results by piggybacking off a larger successful engine)

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        Thank you for the corrections! I’ve updated the post. I agree that Brave search had the best results/UX. As you mentioned, I have my own moral qualms with brave as a company.

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          You’re very welcome, thanks for your initial post laying out a bunch of the options for folks to think about ☺️

          Hope you have a good one!

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      9 months ago

      Ecosia uses the money they generate with ads to plant trees 🌿 (I think it’s bing on the backend)

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        I’ve updated the post to say that in Brave uses a custom index. I skipped DuckDuckGo because it only uses Bing :(

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      9 months ago

      Kagi user here.

      Bought a month to test it and then went for a year immediately afrer. I really like it!

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      MetaGer is a metasearch engine focused on protecting users’ privacy. Based in Germany, and hosted as a cooperation between the German NGO ‘SUMA-EV - Association for Free Access to Knowledge’ and the University of Hannover, the system is built on 24 small-scale web crawlers under MetaGer’s own control. In September 2013, MetaGer launched MetaGer.net, an English-language version of their search engine.

      Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/MetaGer


      It currently supports the following languages/regions:

      Dansk (Danmark)

      Deutsch (Österreich/Schweiz/Deutschland)

      English (Great Britain/Ireland/Malaysia/USA)

      Español (España/México)

      Suomalainen (Suomi)

      Français (Canada/France)

      Italiano (Italia)

      Nederlands (Nederland)

      Polski (Polska)

      Svenska (Sverige)

      Source: https://metager.org/lang


      There is a TOR-hidden service too:

      https://metager.org/tor


      It is open source:

      https://gitlab.metager.de/open-source/MetaGer


      And has other useful features, for example:

      […] you can hide yourself behind our proxyserver just by opening the result anonymously? Use “OPEN ANONYMOUSLY”; this also affects the following links.

      Source: https://metager.org/tips


      Alternatively I use some SearxNG-instances, preferably hosted in the EU:

      https://searx.space

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      Try Andisearch, it was the first AI search ever and apart is one of the most private search engine which even actively protect your ID, no ads, no tracking, no logs, anonymous.

      Adding as search engine in your browser

      https://andisearch.com/?query=%s

      Perplexity, well, is still one of the more private AI, but best to use the extension which works well and anonymous (logs only tech data), Chromium only. In Firefox you can use perplexity only as search engine from the website itself.

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    I’m not sure what exactly you’re typing into the search field, but I don’t anything like this. The top 3 sites I get for a search of “minerals” are wikipedia, australian museum, and britannica. Typing in “crystals” gets me a healthline article debunking crystal healing, but the following results are some woman’s personal store and amazon. Lastly, being direct about wanting scientific articles gets me said articles…

    Side note: Why are there so many people pushing for kagi in this thread and skipping over the fact that duckduckgo exists? It’s kinda bizarre to see.

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      Hell, typing in “scientific data about minerals” gets me a bunch of university geology department websites.

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      I’ve commented about potential Kagi astroturfing here before.

      Seems likely to me.

      Their trial - too short for me - felt like a private Google w/improvements.

      Now, as a filthy freeloader, my default is DuckDuckGo. I am dissatisfied with the results and !bang out to Google (!g) about half the time. I pray DDG makes use of this data to improve their engine.

      tl;dr astroturfing vs. bad results vs. enabling the king of adware

      Gosh I need to set up SearXNG! Also “private Google” vibes. Instances here

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        Half the time?

        I switch to another search engine about 1 in 100

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      Why are there so many people pushing for kagi in this thread and skipping over the fact that duckduckgo exists?

      It’s a tide ad

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      Google results are different for everyone by design. Results vary per person because of assumptions made about what you’d like to see. I believe the term is filter bubbles.

      Idk if anything has changed since but a high school teacher showed us this in a computer lab. She gave us an exact phrase to type in and we all compared search results. They were similar enough to be useful but had significant differences in what the first page showed. And we weren’t even signed in to our school accounts, when we did it was even worse.

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    9 months ago

    This scene live rent free in my head. Also fuckin Crystal Healing types make me look bad when I just think pretty rocks look nice

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    Aaaaannd this is why I use Kagi. The site ranking feature let’s me block or down rank sketchy sites. (And lets you boost credible sites.)

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    God I had this issue looking for used wheels for my car. Like, actual wheels to use for a track day, but results showed nothing but simracing threads for used STEERING wheels.