The same boomers when you say bands playing at 400bpm are expressing emotions and working harder than the guy bending to the blues note slowly for the millionth time.
It’s got no soul! How can you refine yourself through hours of practice and technique and dedication and also express yourself at the same time???
I know whatever musicians were playing that faster track put countless hours into learning to play their style, but so does every other professional musician. That to me sounds like complete garbage, just as I’m sure slower lyrical music sounds like garbage to you.
Different kinds of musicians spend their time improving different aspects of their playing. Some of it you will appreciate, and some you won’t. You don’t have to be an elitist about it and pretend your favorite genre is the only one that requires any skill to perform well. Most people simply don’t care how fast you can play those technical passages that are so distorted they sound like white noise to the average person. They would rather perfect their tone and style.
Just want to say I entirely agree with you and that I’m really not sure why the other person doesn’t get it. Any musician knows tone/timbre is really important. I play the violin; you can play really fast and that takes skill, but there’s also a hell of a lot of skill involved in getting a nice sound out of a sustained note.
I know whatever musicians were playing that faster track put countless hours into learning to play their style, but so does every other professional musician. That to me sounds like complete garbage, just as I’m sure slower lyrical music sounds like garbage to you.
I see excuses, not bleeding fingers. For real. Go try it. Come back to me later when you fucking manageto play that music. Or just admit you’re wrong.
You don’t have to be an elitist about it and pretend your favorite genre is the only one that requires any skill to perform well.
It’s almost as if me and OP are trying to do this about the boomers and their favourite genre/band.
They would rather perfect their tone and style.
Why do you feel the faster music has trash tone? Isn’t it all just opinions maan?
If you don’t like heavy metal, sure. Let me get a different example for you.
The whole idea is that when boomers shit on music that’s over 100 BPM, they’re assholes. You want to come to that idea and say that "um akshually, the boomers are right, music is about “FEELING” and “TOAN” and your guys are too fast and the tone is too scary? I compared it to Kiss, your great granddad probably would probably shit himself if he heard the devil sounds coming out of ace frehley’s amp.
Defending rock TOAN is not where you want to be. It’s basically over, boomers are dead and Tim killed them with his “Boomer bends” comment.
I don’t know quite why you seem to be so hostile to the blues, or anyone that wants to defend the skill of the musicians that play it. If you want to see a skilled blues guitarist doing all the twiddly bits, then I’ll happily point you in the direction of Gary Moore, or blues-adjacent Steve Vai.
His sound was not over-processed. It was very, very basic. It basically was a guitar, an amp, a fuzz box and his hands. I remember seeing him in Copenhagen in 1984 or 1985. We were recording Master of Puppets. He was playing a Strat, which is known for a clear, somewhat thin sound. But the sound he was getting out of that Strat was so thick and so full and just so raw. This was before you had all these guitar processors that could make the cheapest guitar sound like the most expensive guitar, so I kinda deduced that most of the sound was in his hands.
I don’t even play the guitar, but if we’re challenging each other to play each other’s instruments, then so be it. Come back to me when you can play with this guy’s tone quality and phrasing. You’ll notice its a little harder than it looks.
The same boomers when you say bands playing at 400bpm are expressing emotions and working harder than the guy bending to the blues note slowly for the millionth time.
It’s got no soul! How can you refine yourself through hours of practice and technique and dedication and also express yourself at the same time???
Also let’s not even talk about those hippity hoppers
I wouldn’t say one is necessarily working harder than the other. They’re just doing different things.
really now. why don’t you try to play AUM by Archspire and compare how much dedication and effort that takes compared to playing Detroit Rock City
I’m sure the bendy boomer zillionaires were just as dedicated as the impoverished canadians that risk bankrupcy whenever they tour.
get back to me when you realise that it’s going to take you about 15 mins to play detroit rock city, but probably a year to learn how to play AUM.
I know whatever musicians were playing that faster track put countless hours into learning to play their style, but so does every other professional musician. That to me sounds like complete garbage, just as I’m sure slower lyrical music sounds like garbage to you.
Different kinds of musicians spend their time improving different aspects of their playing. Some of it you will appreciate, and some you won’t. You don’t have to be an elitist about it and pretend your favorite genre is the only one that requires any skill to perform well. Most people simply don’t care how fast you can play those technical passages that are so distorted they sound like white noise to the average person. They would rather perfect their tone and style.
Just want to say I entirely agree with you and that I’m really not sure why the other person doesn’t get it. Any musician knows tone/timbre is really important. I play the violin; you can play really fast and that takes skill, but there’s also a hell of a lot of skill involved in getting a nice sound out of a sustained note.
I see excuses, not bleeding fingers. For real. Go try it. Come back to me later when you fucking manageto play that music. Or just admit you’re wrong.
It’s almost as if me and OP are trying to do this about the boomers and their favourite genre/band.
Why do you feel the faster music has trash tone? Isn’t it all just opinions maan?
If you don’t like heavy metal, sure. Let me get a different example for you.
Paganini’s Caprice no.24 it has slow passages and faster passages
Or some Chopin
Do you want to bitch about tone for that too?
The whole idea is that when boomers shit on music that’s over 100 BPM, they’re assholes. You want to come to that idea and say that "um akshually, the boomers are right, music is about “FEELING” and “TOAN” and your guys are too fast and the tone is too scary? I compared it to Kiss, your great granddad probably would probably shit himself if he heard the devil sounds coming out of ace frehley’s amp.
Defending rock TOAN is not where you want to be. It’s basically over, boomers are dead and Tim killed them with his “Boomer bends” comment.
I don’t know quite why you seem to be so hostile to the blues, or anyone that wants to defend the skill of the musicians that play it. If you want to see a skilled blues guitarist doing all the twiddly bits, then I’ll happily point you in the direction of Gary Moore, or blues-adjacent Steve Vai.
And if you’re a metal fan, then maybe you’ll find Metallica’s respect for Gary Moore persuasive.
It’s not about being hostile to the blues, it’s about counteracting the bs the blues boomers spew about technical music not having expression.
The theme of the comment chain and the meme is that boomers are closed minded. I’m sick of them putting my tastes down.
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I don’t even play the guitar, but if we’re challenging each other to play each other’s instruments, then so be it. Come back to me when you can play with this guy’s tone quality and phrasing. You’ll notice its a little harder than it looks.
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Detroit Rock City
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