Then, responding to those who have said he’s “only doing this for the money", Szymanski tweeted: “Yes, no fucking shit. I make games for a living. If I didn’t want to earn money from them I wouldn’t charge money for them.”

The game follows the premise of being trapped in an underwater submarine out of necessity to capture deep pictures.

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    Well. Thankfully he never said that his statement was an objective fact.

    Seriously, what’s up with you people? Do you need every single statement prefaced with “this is only my subjective opinion and not concrete fact but-!” Or you’ll take it like they’re trying to preach the word of god?

    You’re not a computer. Why are you acting like one?

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            Well, one, Jesus Christ, it’s not even my statement. Two, the guy saying “this game isn’t worth $8” is obviously a subjective statement because it literally cannot ever be an objective statement.

            Like. By definition.

            When you see a movie rating and someone rates it four out of five stars, you understand that’s not them declaring a universal constant, correct?

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                You can just say you goofed up and said something silly lmao. It’s more embarrassing to suddenly go “uhm, actually…. Have you considered I suddenly don’t want to talk about this anymore?” When confronted with an error on your part.

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                    Okay, no, that’s fine. You can double down and say that you firmly believe someone saying “I don’t think this video game is worth $8” is an objective statement. Not exactly the move I would make but yunno you’ve got an uhh… interesting noggin on ya (don’t get too mad, that’s a subjective statement).

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      Well. Thankfully he never said that his statement was an objective fact.

      They did. Just because you don’t explicitly say “this is a fact”, doesn’t mean you’re not making a statement of fact. “This is a $5 game” is a statement of fact. “I wouldn’t pay more than $5 for this game” is a statement of opinion. That’s the difference between humans reading a passage and computers doing the same. Humans take context and past experience into account, all of which say that the phrasing they originally used implies an objective fact.

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        No he didn’t. He said “this isn’t a $6 game, let alone an $8 game”. Both of those are subjective opinion statements. He is referring to the perceived value of the game being lower to the actual costs of the game ($6 and $8 respectively)

        This is really not a difficult thing. I’m not sure why so many Lemmy users are struggling with it

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          In the only perfectly logical interpretation of the comment, you would be correct. Unfortunately, humans are not always perfectly logical and will often say things that are illogical. The most common meaning intended by the phrase “this is a $5 game” is the illogical one of presenting it as an objective fact.

          I refuse to believe that this is the first time you’ve encountered an illogical statement.

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            So under your grand interpretation, you should default to just saying “no, when they said that they actually meant it in the wrong way”.

            You might just be too cynical and online to read man

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              It’s fine (and expected in most human interactions) to default to assuming that the most commonly intended meaning is what’s intended. And no, that doesn’t mean you should respond like an asshole. Respond to the intended meaning of the original statement instead of commenting on how your use of the English language is superior to theirs.

              This is how human interactions work in general. It’s worth learning if you want to fit into society.

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                Yep. The intended meaning of the original comment is a subjective opinion. There is literally no way for it not to be.

                Hope this cleared things up for you. Really hoping you’re not a computer programmer or like… someone who has to talk to people in your day job.

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                  https://lemmy.ca/comment/8470067

                  I’m not going to repeat what I’ve already said. If you choose to ignore it, then so be it. There isn’t really anything I can say to convince you that this is true. You just have to go out in the world and experience it for yourself.

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                    I don’t ignore it. You’re just wrong lmfao. Objectively so. Not an opinion.

                    Goodluck out there kid. You’ll need it

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                  you think we talk earthlingspeak?

                  Anyways I agree with howrar, and all the downvotes on your thread show how many people also do. Language isn’t something that College Board can really regulate. They can punish you for not following their rules, sure, but the thing about language is that it changes.

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                    It does change. But it doesn’t change when a subjective statement is a subjective statement. “This movie is 4 out of 5 stars” “this game isn’t worth $6 or $8” are never ever going to be objective statements regardless of if it’s 1150 or 2991