• Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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      Right here on lemmy. Try saying that Biden should stop supporting genocide here on lemmy a few times. You’ll get plenty of people acting like you’re both-sidesing for Trump.

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        Only if you add in a splash of “so I’m not voting for him”.

        No one is shouting down people for just saying Biden should stop supporting genocide.

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              Someone posts news about Biden walking back on his sanctions on settlers, and this comment appears. Edit, doesn’t work for me, maybe this link to my reply will

              Another perfect example and another

              Someone makes a meme about Biden jeopardizing his chances and gets this response.

              None of these people said they would vote trump. If you look out for it you will see this quite often. Unfortunately a couple of recent threads I was involved in with other examples have since been deleted.

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                I can’t read some of those without creating an account, so I’ll take your word for it.

                But from the ones I can see, I don’t see anyone acting like someone who claimed Biden should stop supporting genocide is both-sidesing for Trump.

                The one that comes closest was downvoted and removed, so it’s obviously not a popular thing to do.

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                  Someone in one example is complaining that the DNC ignores progressives, not saying they will vote for Trump. The response containing this has 10 net upvotes:

                  It seems you’re suggesting that the fallout from another Trump presidency will lead to better long term results than a second Biden presidency?

                  What happens to Ukraine after you stick it to the man and support Trump?

                  Honestly it will continue in future and now you will notice it.

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          If you say “biden should stop supporting genocide” then you’ll get “but the other guy supports genocide even harder” to shut down any discussion. If you point out that it’s unacceptable that the only two options are genocide supporters, that’s definitely when you get the “you’re both sidesing!!” talking point in another attempt to shut down discussion.

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            Go ahead, share some examples then. Back yourself up. Should be simple if it’s so common.

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              You get one. I suspect you’re arguing in bad faith and I’m not going to waste more time on something like that.

              https://lemmy.world/comment/8972976

              Particularly sailingbythelee’s response. When you try to say this isn’t sufficient, it will confirm that you were arguing in bad faith the entire time.

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                You could not have found a better example.

                Original position of the goalposts:

                No one is shouting down people for just saying Biden should stop supporting genocide.

                Now all of a sudden the downvotes are the most important part

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                Oh the commenter who’s being downvoted? Yeah, it’s obviously not a prevalent or popular response. At best you’re complaining about trolls on the internet – that’s always going to exist.

                Oh, and before I forget, if you say that’s not what you’re doing, then it will confirm you were arguing in bad faith the entire time.

                That’s for teaching me that cool trick with that disclaimer – what a neat way to discredit people.

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                    So you were literally just pointing out that dumb people say dumb things and get down voted for it?

                    Gee, how insightful.