I need y’all to understand: Biden isnt losing votes from the far left. He never had those votes, and could never get them.

He’s losing the votes of Muslims and Arabs in Michigan and Philly. He’s losing the votes of moderates who are watching Israel’s final solution in horror. He’s losing the votes of Latinos and Haitians who see the southern border is getting more militarized and more violent every year

[Edit] to be 100% clear: If you oppose Israel’s war on Palestine, but plan on voting for Biden this November,this post isn’t about you.

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    Biden’s america is already fascism for anyone who’s queer, black, muslim, or woman. Using trump to threaten these people into submitting to another term of the same isn’t going to work.

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      How is Biden oppressing those groups? We are in this position (bans on healthcare, etc.) because Trump’s three SCOTUS picks overturned Roe v Wade and opened the door for all the insane fascist shit going on right now in the Republican controlled states. A majority of people live in Democratic controlled states that have protections for these groups. Things could get so much worse if Trump is given any more power. His first Presidency already set half of the states in the country back over 50 years in terms of women’s rights. He’s also promised to enforce the Comstock Act which would effectively ban abortion nationwide by preventing medical supplies used for abortion related healthcare to be sent in the mail. Not only that but hate crime rates have also gone up since Trump’s first Presidency enabled white supremacists to express their views more openly.

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        And Biden did anything to codify abortion rights in the remaining states that it’s allowed? How about packing SCOTUS? Or legislating to remove the blatantly corrupt judges that have proven they’ll do all they can to get any fascist into the presidency if not Trump.

        People are facing a genocide whilst your wrinkle old fuck hands the perpetrators weapons to finish the job: gaslighting muslims, black people, and women to vote for a genocidal freak who did nothing to protect them at home OR abroad is a total affront to basic decency let alone sense.

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          Abortion is already codified in some states that are under Democratic control. But Biden is President of the US, not of each individual state. He doesn’t have the power to write or enforce state law. His Department of Justice is challenging some state laws in court. It is not codified at a federal level because Democrats do not have enough votes in the Senate or House to do that. Packing SCOTUS also would require Senate approval.

          And I didn’t gaslight anybody or say who to vote for. I only asked how Biden contributes to a fascist America and pointed out that the extremism in this country resulted from Trump’s presidency. The damage that Trump did to this country will take generations to fix and Biden doesn’t have the power to fix everything on his own.

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        The first part of your post would make sense if Biden just entered politics a few years ago. But hes been in politics for half a century.

        Biden has been near or at the helm of US power for about 30 years. He is the face of the ‘bipartisan consensus’ that got us into this neoliberal hell of forever wars and dictator judges.

        I mean, you put the blame overturning Roe entirely on the supreme Court. Do you know how long Biden was on the judiciary committee? He should’ve resigned in disgrace for how he treated Anita Hill. In hindsight, seeing how Thomas’s confirmation was handled should’ve made it clear that Roe’s days were numbered.

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      Are they being beaten, locked up, or killed currently? Because that’s what a Trump Presidency would mean.

      Things can always get worse.

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        Every fucking day you actual dimwit. This is why having to deal with “im gonna vooooot!” nerds is so insanity-inducing: because trans people are being killed and driven out of their states while Biden licks his fucking ice cream and refuses to even legislate to end the repression in blue states .

        He’s literally signing off on more weapons for Israel as you type this asinine shit. He never did a THING to stop the killing at the Mexican border or the endless killing by your cops and your fascists. He forced the railworkers not to strike whilst your rail infrastructure poisoned millions.

        He’s hoping they make useful idiots like you just pissed off enough to vote for him again, but he’s no different to Trump because he just left every horrible thing Trump did fester and build up whilst he and Kamala laughed all the way to the bank.

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          Hey the president doesn’t control the laws of individual states, and barely has any power to legislate. Congress legislates

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          So instead of letting him win, we should let Trump get a second term, so instead of being left to fester everything Trump did can be reinforced. Got it.

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        Yes, they are currently being beaten and killed. Not locked up due to their identity, but it would be actually mind boggling if Trump getting elected was the single thing needed for that to happen.

        Yes it could get worse, but everyone gets into a frenzy over a single election every four years and acts like that’s the deciding factor for how it will be for the next four years. Everyone should be working together to fix the systemic issues that allows trump to radicalize the right. Focusing on the the cause of the infection, like ranked choice voting, removing the electoral college, better education. Spread those ideas in your community, demand your local representatives push for it in the government, and fight the divisive attitudes.

        That’s my issue with the Democrats talking points, it’s divisive and encourages radicalizing people as much as the Republicans. Because in a two party system, both parties benefit from radicalizing their group against each other. And I am absolutely not saying we tolerate intolerance from the right, but I’m saying there are better ways to fight it than voting for Biden who benefits from the “vote for me or else the bad guys win”. There’s no accountability, like when he supports a country that’s killing thousands of innocent people.

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          That’s all great, but those changes take years, decades, generations. The election is in 7 months. There’s not enough time to enact these changes and we won’t get a chance to make them if we have another Trump Presidency.

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            Those changes would happen faster if the decaying old fascist you’re begging people to vote for actually did anything instead of gaslighting muslims into backing his islamophobic party.

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        Yes, yes they are. I’m not saying a Trump presidency would be better, but you seriously need to look outside your personal bubble.