• алсааас [she/they]OP
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    271 year ago

    that’s not a left/right divide. it’s a right/further right divide. And even staunch conservatives follow (neo)liberal economics.

    This is a flow chart from a leftists/socialist perspective

      • алсааас [she/they]OP
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        171 year ago

        Socialism is defined as the working people either directly owning or democratically controlling the economy. I don’t see how that is the case in any “socialist” country at the moment (speaking of the nordic ones, Portugal, China etc)

          • алсааас [she/they]OP
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            1 year ago

            Imma bring up an example to maybe explain it easier. North Korea calls itself the “Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea”. In their official understanding/rhetoric they have a democracy in which the administration acts in the interest of the people instead of a few bureaucratic elites. In reality it’s the other way around. Now, if someone said “Look at what democracy does to a country!!11!”, would you not object?

          • алсааас [she/they]OP
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            91 year ago

            sorry to disillusion you but your system is capitalism with a nice coat of paint over it. It’s still based on exploitation, imperialism, neo-colonialism and oil/fossil fuel money

        • very smart Idiot
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          41 year ago

          While this is true, most left leaning people still know how economy works and why it should keep on working.

          Germany is considered heavily left leaning nowadays. Especially in comparison to countries like the US. But that doesn’t mean that Germans are suddenly borderline communist.

          • lemmy
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            141 year ago

            lol, who in their right mind considers germany as left leaning?

              • @NeoMoss
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                41 year ago

                Probably, but considering Germany as a left-leaning country is still rich.

                It sounds more like your perception of Germany is a little displaced from reality.

                • very smart Idiot
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                  21 year ago

                  It for sure is not. Germany is a social democracy. One of the most advanced in Europe.

                  Therefore Germany is heavily left leaning.

                  I don’t know what you would call the left at this point… Communism?

                  • @NeoMoss
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                    61 year ago

                    But the population and therefore our government which get voted from them is more conservative. And that’s not even calculating the swing to the right. And the established far right networks our executive like police, military and intelligent services doesn’t give a picture of a left leaning country. Germany had a good foundation, I give you that, but we have now decades of conservative governments who slowly undermined it.

                    So maybe left leaning if you compare it to an absolute monarchy, but if you differentiate and look closer, Germany is far from an left leaning country.

                  • @NeoMoss
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                    61 year ago

                    In the name sure. In the party even are some left leaning politicians. But the body of it and our Bundeskanzler, are more centrist than left. The upholding of the status quo is more important for them than improving social situations and tackling leftist points like wealth inequality, so I personally wouldn’t call them left leaning

      • @30isthenew29@lemm.ee
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        21 year ago

        They usually do this because other things depend on it, so it cannot collapse or they percieve it as such/ that that is important/ that for example workers can’t go somewhere else. They don’t see how the benefits don’t outweigh the risk.