• DearOldGrandma
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    393 months ago

    I distinctly remember the same sentiment in 2015 and 2016. Don’t listen to what anything or anyone says. Just vote, and get people you know to vote, because Trump’s supporters certainly will.

    • @alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml
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      113 months ago

      2016 wasn’t due to voters failing to meet their obligation to vote for a warmonger that offered them nothing and whom they cannot influence, it was due to the democrats running a campaign of “American is already great” when most Americans are living paycheck to paycheck and have very little reason to expect things to improve.

      It’s gonna repeat unless the democrats demonstrate that voting for them is worth missing a day’s work.

      • Sneezycat
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        73 months ago

        Voting for them is worth it, if only not to have that psycho fascist known as Trump as your president.

      • HubertManne
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        13 months ago

        this is bs. that was not at all the democratic message. It was a combo of the primary shanigans, treating it like a forgone conclusion (because trump winning is as crazy as britian leaving the EU), and trumps shotgun statements like around legalization. Granted I held my nose and voted but I know why he won. I hate all the idiots who resulted in his win, which to be clear I am talking about people who voted for him and not the stupid democrat elite bullshit. Its like. Oh yeah I will vote for the ressurected hitler or at least not vote for the democrat because that will show him. I mean its not like im going to have to live with the consequences of the election in the country I live.

        • admiralteal
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          43 months ago

          Also worth remembering that Trump did lose the popular vote.

          Which could only happen with Republicans in modern politics. They are HUGELY systemically advantaged and yet still cry foul at every opportunity.

    • @mokus
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      33 months ago

      Unfortunately, encouraging most of the people I know to vote would be counterproductive here

    • @kandoh@reddthat.com
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      23 months ago

      If Biden’s son hadn’t died I think he would have run in 16 and easily taken the nomination and victory

      • HubertManne
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        43 months ago

        I don’t know about that. I had no real opinion of biden until he was president and now I love him because im just agog at what he has accomplished in one term not even taking into account the political situation. I loved obama but he wasted a lot of time trying to compromise. I had a similar situation with pritzker as gov in illinois. Was not wild about him till he actually took office and now I love the guy.