• @Oliofizodos@feddit.de
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    5 months ago

    First of all, your system is broken. Second, what is a Palestinian American supposed to do? Biden is literally providing the ammunition to kill their families. Trump isn’t any better, but that doesn’t mean voting for another genocidal maniac is a viable option.

    You asking Palestinian/Muslim Americans to simply look past that is a very self centered perspective. You say then people will be deported and thrown into camps. That’s what Palestinians were fleeing from in the first place. They fled before, they’ll do it again if they have to. They’re living in diaspora anyway. So do the millions of other Muslim Americans who are here because of Western geopolitics.

    You on the other hand who try to bully them into voting for Biden because it serves your purpose, have nowhere to go. If you want progress for your country and you consider Biden only the lesser evil. Instead of bullying fellow Americans into serving your purpose, why don’t you focus on your common goal instead? Respect their opinion, support their cause.

    Join their protests against Biden, pressurize him into stopping the genocide, pressurize the DNC into sending someone else as their presidential candidate.

    • @Wilzax@lemmy.world
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      The only realistic options have the same result on foreign policy with Israel, so you’re not voting to influence that. The president is not just one policy, it’s their entire platform of policies that determines how the country runs for the next 4 years. It’s always better to choose the lesser of two evils than to allow the greater evil to have a greater chance to win.

      • @Oliofizodos@feddit.de
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        25 months ago

        Yeah that’s true. But the deal was always that Palestinian/Muslim voters accept that they are the victims of geopolitics and in return there’s at least some kind of support.

        But with Biden giving Israel the opportunity to commit an outright genocide in front of the world, he has crossed a line. We have reached a point where a „both sides bad“ and „it’s complicated“ policy just doesn’t work anymore.

      • @hglman@lemmy.ml
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        15 months ago

        Which means we must reach for unrealistic results; we must change the system by means other than election. A new constitutional convention must be called.

        • @Wilzax@lemmy.world
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          35 months ago

          Agreed, America has one of the oldest (and therefore most outdated) democracies in the world. Unfortunately we also have a lot of nationalism that reverses our founders as gods not to be questioned, and that thinks the constitution was meant to be largely immutable. If you have a way to overhaul our constitution that doesn’t require massive civil unrest, I’ll be there to support it

    • @Matumb0@lemmy.world
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      65 months ago

      I guess you would rather vote for Hitler, after all he would not support Isreal I guess…

      Ah and may I remind you who recognized Jerusalem as capital of Israel. Trump would be the first to bomb any country for you, if you sleep for a week in one of his hotels.

    • @ToastedPlanet
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      25 months ago

      If we elect Biden in this election there will be future elections where the the voices of Palestinian and Muslim Americans can be heard. If Trump wins America will become a fascist dictatorship. This dictatorship will green light Israel to completely ethnically cleanse the Gaza strip.

      I support the Palestinian people. However, abandoning democracy will not help anyone. Instead, millions of people will die. Withholding our votes only demonstrates our demographics are not reliable constituents. It does not bring the Democratic Party further to the left, as they instead focus on moderate voters. We must protest and be politically active between elections if we want better candidates to vote for on election day.