• @kent_eh@lemmy.ca
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    726 months ago

    You think Trump will “end the genocide”?

    He will go even harder on “USA needs to support Israel defending God’s promised land”.

    Remember he is the one who moved the US embassy to support Netanyahu’s agenda.

    • queermunist she/her
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      6 months ago

      With Biden, Democrats are mostly falling in line behind the genocide. It’s a bipartisan genocide, with even Bernie being unwilling to support a ceasefire. With Trump, on the other hand, Democrats would reverse course and actually support a ceasefire to obstruct Trump.

      -but that’s all speculation. I don’t know, for sure, that it would happen that way. What I do know is I won’t vote for genocide, and I will withhold my vote unless Biden changes his policy on Israel. I won’t vote for Trump, I’ll even vote Dem down ticket, but I won’t vote for genocide.

      You, on the other hand, are literally voting for genocide if you support Biden. You just want to absolve yourself of that moral responsibility.

      • @rbhfd@lemmy.world
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        406 months ago

        You just want to absolve yourself of that moral responsibility.

        That’s exactly what you are doing. You’re focusing on this one issue, retreating yourself from the binary decision because neither options stands for what you (or I, or morality) would prefer. Completely ignoring that withdrawing from the choice plays into the hand of the infinitely worse candidate. So by not choosing, you do nothing to stop the situation in Gaza, but might actually make things a lot worse for people all over.

        You can virtue signal that you did not compromise on your believes, while actually helping your country make a worse place.

        • @go_go_gadget@lemmy.world
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          86 months ago

          You’re focusing on this one issue

          We’ve raised lots of issues. The amounts of the stimulus checks, the way he fucked us over with the BBB, the way he negotiated down for student loan forgiveness, for fucking over the rail workers. The list goes on. Every time we mention something we get shut down. For someone who wants our votes so badly you have a really odd way of showing it.

        • queermunist she/her
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          Like I said, there are so many other issues that Biden has betrayed me on. This is just the red line. Here and no further.

          You will let Biden do anything he wants to you and beg for more, just to stop Trump. It’s revolting.

          If enough Democrats pressured Biden to endorse a ceasefire by withholding their votes, he would! He’s a politician. That’s what politicians do. This is our only leverage! This is all we can do to stop the genocide, and I really think Biden would reconsider if it looked bad enough.

          • CarniMoss
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            236 months ago

            This is dumb and self-righteous. It’ll be 100 times worse with Trump and we all know this.

            • @go_go_gadget@lemmy.world
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              56 months ago

              We slide farther to the right with each passing year regardless of which party wins. You all seem fine with the direction so we’re just upping the timeline. If you want to go in a different direction tell Joe Biden to stop fucking over voters he’s depending on. And tell anyone who voted for Biden in the 2020 primaries they’re a fucking asshole.

            • queermunist she/her
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              56 months ago

              It’ll be 100 times worse with Trump and we all know this.

              Really? Why not a million times? A billion!

              🤡

              • CarniMoss
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                I thank god I’m not this illiterate. What do you think Trump’s policy is gonna be? He caters to Republicans who WANT funding to Israel. He pushed the Overton window. What do you think he’s gonna do? Is he gonna weave them baskets and pick them flowers? 🤔

                • queermunist she/her
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                  36 months ago

                  I think he’s going to be obstructed by Democrats, who I am voting for down ticket. I think he’s going to ruin Israel’s relations with the rest of the world and turn it into a pariah state. I think he’s going to overextend himself and fail. I think he’s a fat old man and might just die lol

              • Drusas
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                76 months ago

                Posting clown emojis just makes you look like a clown. Use your words.

      • @go_go_gadget@lemmy.world
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        76 months ago

        It’s not one issue buddy. We’ve had lots of issues with Biden. You’re just so far into denial you’re not hearing us.

        • @Soulg@lemmy.world
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          56 months ago

          Yeah, every president has a lot of issues. You’re just demonstrating that you don’t care about electing a dictator.

          • @go_go_gadget@lemmy.world
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            56 months ago

            So you admit what you just said is a lie? You knew all along we didn’t have just one issue with Biden but you’re out here saying it because you’re a liar? Great. Glad we cleared that up.

        • @Rhoeri@lemmy.world
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          26 months ago

          Go ahead and list the issues you think would be worse than what Trump has done, and promises yet to do.

          We’ll all wait here.

          • @go_go_gadget@lemmy.world
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            46 months ago

            Of course Biden wouldn’t be worse than Trump. I don’t care? You’ll have to do better than that if you want my vote. Millions of people had that opportunity in the 2020 primaries and they chose to vote for a procorporate piece of trash. Fuck those people. If they think they can ignore us in the primaries then we’ll ignore their shit candidate in the general. Don’t like it? That’s how democracy works.

            • @Rhoeri@lemmy.world
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              6 months ago

              You’re not getting how this works.

              You’re not voting for Biden? YOU’RE GETTING TRUMP.

              You don’t get to pretend that not voting means you nothing will happen. Right now- you either drink the piss, or you eat the shit. You don’t get to chose neither.

              So either move to another country, or pick one.

              • @go_go_gadget@lemmy.world
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                46 months ago

                You don’t get to chose neither.

                Right, my choice was made for me by selfish pieces of shit in the 2020 primaries who chose a procorporate trash candidate. They can go fuck themselves.

    • @Coasting0942@reddthat.com
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      36 months ago

      Trump did say what he would have done, but given it’s Trump he’d probably not do what he said:

      Trump criticized Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, lauded Hezbollah militants as “very smart” and sought political gain from the attacks that killed 1,200 people by claiming that if the last election was not “rigged,” he’d be the American president and they’d never have happened.