• @Eldritch@lemmy.world
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      106 months ago

      There is a difference between possible and likely. And you my friend are misrepresenting the two. It is 100% possible. But it also is unlikely because of all the genocidal ethno statists.

        • @Eldritch@lemmy.world
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          146 months ago

          Can you be any more disingenuous? Hamas does not represent all of Palestinians. Israel does not represent all Jews. And yes October 7th was not good. But it’s awful telling that your timeline of atrocity starts there. And not the thousands upon thousands that were murdered by IDF and Israeli forces before that.

          Neither group is good. Neither group is innocent. But Israel really needs to stop acting like a victim. It’s not believable.

            • @Eldritch@lemmy.world
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              116 months ago

              You think that might be because of the genocide Israel is perpetrating? I know you’d never admit that. But that’s the reason. And I don’t necessarily blame them. When you have two monsters. You tend to side with the lesser of the two. Really ironic calling Hamas the lesser of two monsters. But it’s true. Despite all the people they killed on October 7th, the number of people the IDF and Israel has killed before and since absolutely dwarf it. It’s exponentially more. Neither one is good. Israel is worse.

        • @DarthBueller@lemmy.world
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          66 months ago

          There are videos of Palestinian children doing a school play about slaughtering Israelis. And these ffers pretend that you’ve got innocents all around.

        • @orrk@lemmy.world
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          36 months ago

          no oct. 7th was Hamas, the 70-year-long occupation and pogroms in the west bank, is what all Jews would do…

          oh wait, I don’t follow fascist logic

            • HACKthePRISONS
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              46 months ago

              >you are in fact following Fascist logic by repeating Hitler’s theory that Jews, even when they’re absent, in fact control others from behind the scenes in dark hallways.

              no, they’re not. how could Israel cut power and water to Gaza unless they controlled it?

            • HACKthePRISONS
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              36 months ago

              >Gaza hasn’t been occupied since 2005.

              except all the military incursions and I’d checkpoints on the border

            • @orrk@lemmy.world
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              16 months ago

              Gaza has been under defacto Israeli control, even according to the Israeli supreme court, they control everything that gets in or out (yes even on the Egyptian crossing and a complete naval blockade), one of the big reasons Hamas exists is aid given to them by the Netanyahu government literally getting rid of secular oppositional groups and working with Hamas over the PA.

              funnily enough, Bibi himself has spouted the idea that the Nazis were puppeted by the Palestinians into doing the holocaust.

    • @orrk@lemmy.world
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      66 months ago

      there are many worlds where the abolition of Israel wouldn’t result in the deaths of Jewish people, unless you swallow the fascist dichotomy of “Israel is the only safe place for Jews” and “Israel is inherently in danger, due to group X”

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      6 months ago

      Well, at least absent a secular awakening in the middle east. And that is the real issue here in my view, and I’m not sure why so many people seem to be giving a pass to the extremist elephant in the room here.