Another player who was at the table during the incident sent me this meme after the problem player in question (they had a history) left the group chat.

Felt like sharing it here because I’m sure more people should keep this kind of thing in mind.

  • Dynamo
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    217 months ago

    Couldn’t a cleric heal partial paralysis tho?

    • @chumbalumber
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      There are plenty of reasons a disabled person could exist in a fantasy setting. A transaction, giving something up for power (e.g. Odin). A curse from an enchanter, that they do not have the power to remove. A religious superstition around those that have had accidents befall them (that it is the will of their god). Or even simply the fact that a number of common people may not be able to afford the services of a cleric (for a villager in the mountains, a journey to the city to have their paralysis cured may be beyond what they can manage).

      • Hell. After reading this I feel like permanent effects from magical damage resulting in physical disabilities should be a trope!

        I can think of a few examples: The Magicians, Game of Thrones, etc. But as a gameplay mechanic it feels like it would have some seriously cool possibilities.

      • Dynamo
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        47 months ago

        I don’t find a disabilty appearing in fantasy surprising, but the uncured ones do surprise me. Or remedied ig. Prettu sure that if your setting can have a wheelchair, then theoretically you could stick Warforged legs onto that someone. Obviously not ideal, but it’d probably be an improvent for the person (in universe ofc)

    • Malle_Yeno
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      167 months ago

      In addition to the list of explanations for why disabled people can exist in a fantasy setting that chumbalumber@lemmy.blahaj.zone provided, I’ll also just say:

      Using diegetic explanations for why a problematic aspect exists in a piece of fictional media does not address the substance of the problem. The problem is that disability is often not represented in fantasy stories. Pointing out that there’s an in-universe explanation for why this may be the case doesn’t solve the lack of representation. These stories are fiction, and you can add any explanation for why disabled people exist as easily as you can erase disability completely.

      This video does a good job of explaining this some more: https://youtu.be/AxV8gAGmbtk?si=YRvXjpZv_YP9Z5sC

      • Dynamo
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        37 months ago

        I’m not arguing the representation angle, i just wouldn’t expect to see many disable people in fantasy, because of magic and the other weird stuff that happens in there. Same with cuberpunk literature tbh

        • I Cast Fist
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          17 months ago

          In cyberpunk and most futuristic settings, the only real disability is being poor

      • @grandkaiser@lemmy.world
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        37 months ago

        Compared to a high fantasy setting, everyone is disabled. I cannot fight a dragon any more than a blind man can be magically cured of blindness.

      • @chumbalumber
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        27 months ago

        Dan Olsen, my beloved.

        Absolutely a good point, answering the question ‘why is it a problem?’, to go alongside ‘how can it be fixed?’. Thanks for the thought provocation

      • Dynamo
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        37 months ago

        Healing magic limitations differ from medium to medium. Maybe the only thing that matters in this case is the damage being still there. Depends on the setting ofc, and if you want to be represented then go ahead, just don’t get angry at me for being surprised

    • @njm1314@lemmy.world
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      47 months ago

      What if the cleric isn’t around when it happens? I mean if you take an ax to the spine and don’t run into a cleric for 3 years can they do anything? I would probably say no.

      • Dynamo
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        27 months ago

        Well, i’d say that it probably depends on the kind of damage, and how well it has healed. I could see a method similar to rebreaking bones that haven’t healed correctly (IRL), where a group of medical professsionals, magical and not, just hit you with an axe in the same spot, to try and get the spine to to heal before the surrounding tissue. Maybe.

      • Dynamo
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        27 months ago

        Perhaps. Ain’t the first time, ain’t the last time.