• @Phlogiston@lemmy.world
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    27 months ago

    it’s grossly offensive if we were to subject a trans-substantiated wafer to scientific tests to see if it’s changed from the control

    Which is funny because the obvious answer is that it instantly transubstantiates back into a cracker if you don’t have faith – which is implied by attempting to test it in any way.

    • @uriel238
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      17 months ago

      So the biscuit knows what you’re feeling?

      If faith is like the Force (the faith of a mustard seed should allow one to work miracles just as Jesus did) that would indicate no Catholic has ever gotten true sacrament, due to insufficient faith, since we’ve never had a living person capable of doing miracles. Throwing faith into the mix raises questions regarding everyone’s communion and everyone’s salvation. Much the way of the witch trials, only those who can do magic can get into Heaven.

      If we adopt the modern interpretation of faith (that is, your willingness to give up the data of your senses in order to accept an authority-informed understanding of reality) it implies that people with depression are just doomed to Hellfire. All the latchkey kids who came from an abusive, neglectful household and have deeply ingrained neuro-pathways that fire off multiple times an hour I can never be good enough. will, according to the George Carlin Class Clown interpretation of Catholic dogma are just FUBAR.

      Faith, and the inability to accurately measure it or create consistent standards tosses the whole of Christianity (except Universalist denominations) into the the pit of the problem of evil. People exist who are incapable of having faith enough to elevate themselves, which God allegedly created to burn, which makes Him malevolent, at least to those individuals He so created.

      • @Phlogiston@lemmy.world
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        17 months ago

        Sure. The cracker is the flesh and blood of an omnipotent god? An omnipotent god can certainly tell what somebody is feeling.

        I don’t actually believe in any religion so I’m not overly bothered by the idea that only magicians can get into heaven. There are so many cults and competing (and arbitrary) rules about what it takes to be rewarded for obedience… It’s hardly worth marveling at any of the weirdnesses of a particular doctrine.