Welp, if my fear of public spaces wasn’t enough already, this just solidifies it 🙃
Edit: it would be really fucking great if people just realized that citizens are not responsible for the actions of their government/military… this goes for everyone - US, Russia, China, Israel, Palestine, EVERYONE
Fuck the powers that be and their direct fucking over of everyone lying under their fist.
Except representative democracy is a myth… Majority rule ≠ representation. Non-majority groups are unaccounted for. Plus, while the people may vote for representatives, they ultimately have no control over what said representatives decide to actually do. They can campaign for and promise all they want, but once they’re in office, they’re there.
Citizens are not responsible for the actions of their government.
Are you American? No part of the article comes close to implying they want to target American civlians:
“To the Americans I say, focusing your threats on Hezbollah and the region are pointless,” Nasrallah said. The US said it “would not only attack Lebanon but will attack Iran.”
“Your fleets in the Mediterranean do not and will not cause us to fear. We have prepared for your fleet what it takes. You Americans remember your defeats from Lebanon (early 80s), Iraq, and Afghanistan… your humiliating retreat from Afghanistan. He praised the recent attacks by Iraqi Shia militias against US based in the region.
“If an all out war erupts your fleet will be no good, your warplanes will be pointless, you will pay a heavy price.”
They are clearly talking about defending against an American intervention. Hurting American civilians in Amrerica would be even more strategically stupid than cruel so I don’t know why you jumped to that conclusion. Maybe you are projecting the American tradition of imposing collective punishment on civilians as they do in cases of their interventions and economic sanction. Unless you want just to fantasise about Muslim hordes in which case you read it however you want.
You’re right, this is what I was afraid of. Attacks like Isis did all over the world. I’m so tired of this shit. This is bad news for everyone, every faith, every non-faith, and only civilians will pay the price again and again.
Hate will grow, people will be divided, suspicions will rise compounded on every country’s already specific problems.
And this time it will be worse, because the population is globalized and not homogeneous, so minorities will bear the worst of it…again. The difference is, I think this time they’ll hit back, so civil unrest is not excluded.
No one is talking about global peace anymore, we have to get together worldwide and try to work to get peace in every country, everywhere. Maybe that way, we can get ALL countries to sign something in the way of the Geneva conventions, but add more binding protections for civilians. That way, when a country is struggling with terrorists, the whole world can help diffuse that, instead of this shit show.
It’s naïve, I know, but we have the intelligence, surveillance, money and power to do it. Just not the willingness.
We have the ability, but peace isn’t profitable. In much the same way as curing disease isn’t profitable. War drives economy, and money is all that anyone in power gives a fuck about. Not you, not me, not anyone. Money.
So long as we live in a global society dominated by fake value points, this shit will continue. Because it works for them.
Welp, if my fear of public spaces wasn’t enough already, this just solidifies it 🙃
Edit: it would be really fucking great if people just realized that citizens are not responsible for the actions of their government/military… this goes for everyone - US, Russia, China, Israel, Palestine, EVERYONE
Fuck the powers that be and their direct fucking over of everyone lying under their fist.
In a representative democracy, the people being responsible for their government is kind of the point.
Except representative democracy is a myth… Majority rule ≠ representation. Non-majority groups are unaccounted for. Plus, while the people may vote for representatives, they ultimately have no control over what said representatives decide to actually do. They can campaign for and promise all they want, but once they’re in office, they’re there.
Citizens are not responsible for the actions of their government.
I don’t think most people realize that members of congress can’t be recalled.
As a legal matter, maybe not. As a practical matter I’m pretty sure it is evident.
You can’t simultaneously support democracy and say that the citizens aren’t responsible for their government.
Either democracy is a failure or it isn’t.
That’s what I’m saying. Most current democratic systems are a failure
Yeah. But we are an oligarchy.
Direct voting is the future.
How do I make this atrocity all about me, a westerner
Excuse me?
I feel like being nervous in response to blatant threats to my nation - and by extent its populous, including myself - is fairly reasonable
Are you American? No part of the article comes close to implying they want to target American civlians:
They are clearly talking about defending against an American intervention. Hurting American civilians in Amrerica would be even more strategically stupid than cruel so I don’t know why you jumped to that conclusion. Maybe you are projecting the American tradition of imposing collective punishment on civilians as they do in cases of their interventions and economic sanction. Unless you want just to fantasise about Muslim hordes in which case you read it however you want.
You’re right, this is what I was afraid of. Attacks like Isis did all over the world. I’m so tired of this shit. This is bad news for everyone, every faith, every non-faith, and only civilians will pay the price again and again.
Hate will grow, people will be divided, suspicions will rise compounded on every country’s already specific problems.
And this time it will be worse, because the population is globalized and not homogeneous, so minorities will bear the worst of it…again. The difference is, I think this time they’ll hit back, so civil unrest is not excluded.
No one is talking about global peace anymore, we have to get together worldwide and try to work to get peace in every country, everywhere. Maybe that way, we can get ALL countries to sign something in the way of the Geneva conventions, but add more binding protections for civilians. That way, when a country is struggling with terrorists, the whole world can help diffuse that, instead of this shit show.
It’s naïve, I know, but we have the intelligence, surveillance, money and power to do it. Just not the willingness.
We have the ability, but peace isn’t profitable. In much the same way as curing disease isn’t profitable. War drives economy, and money is all that anyone in power gives a fuck about. Not you, not me, not anyone. Money.
So long as we live in a global society dominated by fake value points, this shit will continue. Because it works for them.