@rivermonster most of them are not vocal about it right now. Many of them have normalised relations with Israel in the last few years.
They also hold the belief that allowing Israel to chase all the Palestinians out of Palestine and grab the land would be the end of the Two State Solution, turning the latter into permanent refugees.
In practical terms given Israel’s blockades the only country in a position to take them is Egypt.
Egypt already hosts 9 million refugees, taking another 2 million would be politically unpopular with voters.
Egypt is also afraid of ending up in a border war with Israel (which would happen if any of the new refugees attacked Israel).
Other nations absolutely could petition to take them in and should. They could, at the very least, petioon Israel to allow them to provide refuge, but they dont bc they like things the way they are. I understand why, including it being politically advantageous for all of them and unstable governments, and nobody wants the terrorists hiding among the civilians.
That’s rather rhe point, Israel can’t commit its war crimes without the assistance of Egypt, and honestly the all the other Arab nations who clutch their pearls. It’s so upsetting to see so many horrible and disingenuous actors in this from the Bibi/Hamas alliance (and theynare bed fellows) to Egypt and the rest of the nations who could help but instead clutch at their pearls and feign outrage.
@rivermonster I always wonder whether people who want “Arab nations” to take in more refugees are also petitioning their own representatives to take in more themselves.
Pretty much all the biggest refugee-hosting nations are poorer nations.
Oh, I’m with you. Fuck my own country for not taking them in. I’m in the US. Our southern border is one endless crime against humanity. I literally petition my rep and both senators regularly about violations to our consititon and international law that occur here. It is a source of shame for anyone of conscience who lives here.
@rivermonster yeah that’s getting really bad lately.
I’m in New Zealand and I want more refugees from everywhere, including Palestine. It’s frustrating.
Turns out Children of Men is the most prophetic sci fi.
I feel you, I argue for both immigration and asylum to be opened and increased in the US. I regularly am so depressed and dismayed that we aren’t even honoring international agreements and law around asylum for those fleeing innumerable horrors.
@rivermonster to be fair to the US it didn’t actually sign the UN convention on refugees that the rest of the West signed. But I still share your frustration.
I wish we could all work together on this stuff. Instead we have had some shining examples recently of how countries who do take people from warzones get left to take a huge hit, like poor Bangladesh struggling alone to administer Coxs Bazar (the biggest refugee camp in the world, now home to the Rohingya), or the Kurds who bizarrely were left trying to feed and shelter surrendered ISIS fighters from all over the world.
Honestly, my friend, that is just another source of shame that we aren’t signatories. The same as with our failure to sign on to the ICC. Just know some of us in this craphole are fighting the fascists.
@rivermonster most of them are not vocal about it right now. Many of them have normalised relations with Israel in the last few years.
They also hold the belief that allowing Israel to chase all the Palestinians out of Palestine and grab the land would be the end of the Two State Solution, turning the latter into permanent refugees.
In practical terms given Israel’s blockades the only country in a position to take them is Egypt.
Egypt already hosts 9 million refugees, taking another 2 million would be politically unpopular with voters.
Egypt is also afraid of ending up in a border war with Israel (which would happen if any of the new refugees attacked Israel).
Egypt also wants the Two State Solution
Here is an article that might interest you: Why Egypt Won’t Open The Border To Its Palestinian Neighbours
Other nations absolutely could petition to take them in and should. They could, at the very least, petioon Israel to allow them to provide refuge, but they dont bc they like things the way they are. I understand why, including it being politically advantageous for all of them and unstable governments, and nobody wants the terrorists hiding among the civilians.
That’s rather rhe point, Israel can’t commit its war crimes without the assistance of Egypt, and honestly the all the other Arab nations who clutch their pearls. It’s so upsetting to see so many horrible and disingenuous actors in this from the Bibi/Hamas alliance (and theynare bed fellows) to Egypt and the rest of the nations who could help but instead clutch at their pearls and feign outrage.
@rivermonster I always wonder whether people who want “Arab nations” to take in more refugees are also petitioning their own representatives to take in more themselves.
Pretty much all the biggest refugee-hosting nations are poorer nations.
Nevertheless, this article might give you food for thought: The Growing Significance Of Malaysia and Indonesia’s Non-recognition of Israel.
Oh, I’m with you. Fuck my own country for not taking them in. I’m in the US. Our southern border is one endless crime against humanity. I literally petition my rep and both senators regularly about violations to our consititon and international law that occur here. It is a source of shame for anyone of conscience who lives here.
@rivermonster yeah that’s getting really bad lately.
I’m in New Zealand and I want more refugees from everywhere, including Palestine. It’s frustrating.
Turns out Children of Men is the most prophetic sci fi.
I feel you, I argue for both immigration and asylum to be opened and increased in the US. I regularly am so depressed and dismayed that we aren’t even honoring international agreements and law around asylum for those fleeing innumerable horrors.
I’m very ashamed of my country on this issue.
@rivermonster to be fair to the US it didn’t actually sign the UN convention on refugees that the rest of the West signed. But I still share your frustration.
I wish we could all work together on this stuff. Instead we have had some shining examples recently of how countries who do take people from warzones get left to take a huge hit, like poor Bangladesh struggling alone to administer Coxs Bazar (the biggest refugee camp in the world, now home to the Rohingya), or the Kurds who bizarrely were left trying to feed and shelter surrendered ISIS fighters from all over the world.
Honestly, my friend, that is just another source of shame that we aren’t signatories. The same as with our failure to sign on to the ICC. Just know some of us in this craphole are fighting the fascists.