So, since I’m trans, am I allowed to say that instituting a law where we jail people over saying something rude seems awful to me.
Maybe it’s just because I’m an American, used to our constitutionally protected freedom of speech. But I think the ramifications for an average person misgendering someone should probably be limited to social ramifications rather than government ordained punitive ones.
Now if it’s a doctor or government employee or something there’s a discussion to be had.
You’re allowed to be wrong, but at least your nose and partially your business. She isn’t going to pick you, though. There is a high probability that’s a snootier reply than you perhaps deserve. Not in the best place today. I don’t retract it by I turn the volume down.
Not that I think anyone should be in jail for anything ever, but intentional rebuke of a trans person’s gender should result in a severe assbeating and social censure.
“She isn’t going to pick you” lol as far as I’m concerned JK Rowling can die in a fucking fire. Harry Potter is ass anyway. You’re just angry that there are people out there who don’t want to see people arrested over non-crimes.
I’m more perturbed people unaffected by her fuckshit deign chime in to say her bullshit hypothetical “…would be terrible, to be fair” as if it’s a thing or she and her worldview need defending. As though the people who need to speak up about how everyone’s a perfect right to be a bigot are the ones unaffected by that bigotry.
You, I’m more annoyed at for encouraging them. They’ll never learn to channel their Birbiglia that way.
Still, I’ve no quarrel with you.
This whole thing hasn’t even been about what is or isn’t true, but who should and should not shut the fuck up and when.
This whole chain started because someone mentioned they’d hate to live in a jurisdiction that arrested people for misgendering someone. I’m inclined to agree.
Whether or not you feel people are justified in holding their views has ZERO bearing here. It’s quite telling how you think you’re the arbitrator on who and who does not get a say.
And to be clear, fuck bigots and bigotry. I hate ‘em all. Hope they all die painful deaths. I just don’t want governments that don’t already have it to suddenly gain the authority to arrest based on offending people, because it doesn’t take too long before that starts getting abused by the exact type of people who fuck over people like me regularly.
So, since I’m trans, am I allowed to say that instituting a law where we jail people over saying something rude seems awful to me.
Maybe it’s just because I’m an American, used to our constitutionally protected freedom of speech. But I think the ramifications for an average person misgendering someone should probably be limited to social ramifications rather than government ordained punitive ones.
Now if it’s a doctor or government employee or something there’s a discussion to be had.
You’re allowed to be wrong, but at least your nose and partially your business. She isn’t going to pick you, though.There is a high probability that’s a snootier reply than you perhaps deserve. Not in the best place today. I don’t retract it by I turn the volume down.
Not that I think anyone should be in jail for anything ever, but intentional rebuke of a trans person’s gender should result in a severe assbeating and social censure.
“She isn’t going to pick you” lol as far as I’m concerned JK Rowling can die in a fucking fire. Harry Potter is ass anyway. You’re just angry that there are people out there who don’t want to see people arrested over non-crimes.
I’m more perturbed people unaffected by her fuckshit deign chime in to say her bullshit hypothetical “…would be terrible, to be fair” as if it’s a thing or she and her worldview need defending. As though the people who need to speak up about how everyone’s a perfect right to be a bigot are the ones unaffected by that bigotry.
You, I’m more annoyed at for encouraging them. They’ll never learn to channel their Birbiglia that way.
Still, I’ve no quarrel with you.
This whole thing hasn’t even been about what is or isn’t true, but who should and should not shut the fuck up and when.
This whole chain started because someone mentioned they’d hate to live in a jurisdiction that arrested people for misgendering someone. I’m inclined to agree.
Whether or not you feel people are justified in holding their views has ZERO bearing here. It’s quite telling how you think you’re the arbitrator on who and who does not get a say.
And to be clear, fuck bigots and bigotry. I hate ‘em all. Hope they all die painful deaths. I just don’t want governments that don’t already have it to suddenly gain the authority to arrest based on offending people, because it doesn’t take too long before that starts getting abused by the exact type of people who fuck over people like me regularly.
Cis people still don’t need to be saying how important it is for other cis people to be free to misgender trans people.
They should do that other thing: shutting the fuck up.
If you can ONLY see this issue in the light of whether or not people can misgender trans people, you’re already engaging in bad faith.
We’ve been over this:
This is not about who should or should not misgender trans people (the answer is “no one” but, again, that is not what any of this is about).
This is about who has moral authority to get all West Wing about a group-they-are-not-part-of’s oppression.