This meme is from 2004. History repeats itself.

  • @istdaslol@feddit.de
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    169 months ago

    This is nothing new. Often the actions of Israel are portrayed in the worst way possible. As a quick example: The UN considers everyone under 18 a child, hamas starts recruiting at 14. When the IDF does a raid and kills one of these members the Arab media screams „Isreal has slaughtered children“

    This is why I switched to being more pro Israel

    • @Veltoss@lemmy.world
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      329 months ago

      Ignoring of course the countless children they kill who aren’t part of hamas. The ratio of children to adults killed by Israel can only be reached by doing it on purpose.

      You “switching sides” because you don’t like the media reporting on these murders is a joke and I can only assume a lie, because it doesn’t make sense.

      The media reporting stuff doesn’t change what is happening nor the morals and ethics involved. Silly to blame the media for you choosing to support the murder of innocents.

      • @istdaslol@feddit.de
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        109 months ago

        It’s on purpose, but on the hamas side, they use children and civilians in general as human meat shields. They fire their rockets from schools and hospitals, hide their equipment in residential areas. Just to scream „Israel bad“ when one of these outpost gets attacked

        • blazera
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          239 months ago

          How convenient, when israel kills civilians its because palestine is hiding behind them, in their own country, being bombed. Its only heartless civilian massacres the other way around.

          • @istdaslol@feddit.de
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            89 months ago

            It seems so, if you gloss over the fact that Hamas is using unguided rockets to throw in the general direction of Israel and Israel is using precision ammunition to target the places the first were fired from.

            • blazera
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              179 months ago

              So civilians killed by israel are even more egregious then. Like that strike on evacuees that just happened.

              • DarkGamer
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                You’re suggesting that intent doesn’t matter, causing accidental civilian deaths while defending one’s self is an act morally equivalent to intentionally targeting and murdering civilians. I disagree. In most legal systems and ethical systems intent matters a lot.

                • blazera
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                  129 months ago

                  And palestinians are defending themselves from the much deadlier attacks and long term military occupation of their country and borders.

              • @istdaslol@feddit.de
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                89 months ago

                Israel is expanding into the West Bank, not Gaza. They are resisting nobody. Israel even removed all of its citizens from that area. They are terrorists. They are founded by and doing the bidding for Iran.

                  • @istdaslol@feddit.de
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                    69 months ago

                    By this point I have shown a more nuanced view than you. As I know the difference between the Gaza and West Bank conflict

          • DarkGamer
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            99 months ago

            As if the cartoon this thread is about wasn’t claiming moral superiority for the other side.

    • NoIWontPickaName
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      9 months ago

      Yes the Israelis don’t kill children for throwing rocks and then call them soldiers

    • Franzia
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      169 months ago

      I’d like to add even more context: ~45% of Palestine is under the age of 14.

        • Franzia
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          169 months ago

          Palestinians do not have consistent access to clean water, no I don’t think they have consistent access to condoms.

        • DarkGamer
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          69 months ago

          “Palestinian women are not having lots of children because they don’t know about contraception, or can’t access contraception,” says Sara Randall, an anthropologist at University College London, who co-authored the 2006 investigation. “So one has to conclude that they actually want lots of children.” source

          • Franzia
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            149 months ago

            FYI links to her study, about Demography, not access to contraception - lead to a 404 page.

            Here’s a prrtty informal survey about Gazan access to contraception, it sort of suggests they have, like I said, inconsistent access to contraception.

            https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31856794/

            The article you linked to makes many excellent points. When you’re poor, bored, and chock full of bombing-induced PTSD, having many kids is seen as a good idea.