The Pennsylvania Democrat recalled his time serving as a Hillary Clinton surrogate in 2016, even after he supported Bernie Sanders in the primary.

  • @banneryear1868@lemmy.world
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    110 months ago

    voting third party effectively supports whichever mainstream candidate you don’t want to win.

    What if you don’t want either to win and see the trend of both parties turning more to the right since Reagan and locked in a death spiral. Corporate tax rates are as low as ever, both parties support the military industrial complex and police state, both support the Palestinian genocide, neither party wants to get rid of Citizens United and Super PACs (regulated less than charities) now control and appropriate political action for corporate interests, neither party supports public healthcare. Like yeah the degradation may happen slower under Democrat but they haven’t shown signs of turning their backs against the corporate interests ruining the country/world.

    • @Zink@programming.dev
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      210 months ago

      If you don’t want either one to win, there is no way for you to legally make that happen.

      So if you accept that is true, and you have a preference among the two parties, that is where pragmatism suggests voting against the greater evil.

      But if you honestly have little to no preference, then you won’t care about the so-called consequences of voting third party, and can do whatever.

      I mean obviously you can always do whatever you want. This is just the game theory you’re thinking that means we need to change our voting system before the two-party lock-in would even start to loosen.

      • @banneryear1868@lemmy.world
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        110 months ago

        Pragmatism would suggest I spend my efforts being politically active in other ways rather than dedicate it to a bipartisan death spiral. I’m active on the labor, municipal, and environmental front, and none of it is online.

        • @Zink@programming.dev
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          210 months ago

          That sounds awesome!

          I was just talking about the vote decision in the booth though. Actually helping change along is arguably even more important than voting in the first place, because each individual involved has a larger effect, and one that they care about much more than choosing the lesser evil.