Groups of neo-Nazis and white supremacists spread antisemitic, white supremacist and anti-LGBTQ messages outside Disney World and in the nearby Orlando, Florida, area Saturday in the latest examples of rising antisemitism in the U.S., officials said.

About 15 people wearing clothing and bearing flags emblazoned with Nazi insignia demonstrated outside the entrance to the Disney Springs shopping center, said the Orange County Sheriff’s Office, which said deputies were dispatched around 10:40 a.m.

According to the Anti-Defamation League, a civil rights organization dedicated to countering extremism, participants carried antisemitic, white supremacist and anti-LGBTQ flags and signs. The group consisted of members of the neo-Nazi groups Order of the Black Sun, Aryan Freedom Network and 14 First, a now disbanded group that has been absorbed into the National Socialist Movement, the largest neo-Nazi group in the U.S., according to the ADL.

  • fiat_lux
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    I believe most States in the US draw the line at “(directly) inciting violence” or “creating a disaster” (eg. shouting “Fire!” In a crowded theatre).

    For whatever reasons, shouting “white power” and “Jews will not replace us” while waving swastika flags is not considered “inciting violence” in the US, even though the implications are very clear to everyone. This has allowed Nazis to march in the streets for decades in the US.

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      For whatever reasons

      The reason is cops and judges agree with those reasons.

      Waving nazi flags and using their slogans should be treated as a threat at all times. There is no possible way that anything nazi is not implied violence.

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      To me it always seemed weird how saying “we should eradicate jews by our own hand” or “we should kill this jew” would probably not be okay because of inciting violence, but saying “we should eradicate jews… Through the law/state” instead is perfectly acceptable and not inciting violence.

      Is one level of indirection really enough to make it okay? The end result is the same.

      This is also why such free speech has problems. If you’re the one spewing that shit it’s all fine and dandy for you, but if you’re the targeted minority what can you do, exactly? Certainly you cannot legally physically defend yourself! You’re just destined to have to defend your literal existence with speech, like jeez. It’s so lopsided.

      • fiat_lux
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        It doesn’t make sense when you look at it through the lens of “violence is a bad thing”, which is what we’re generally led to believe it is about. It does make sense when you look at it through the lens of “xenophobia personally benefits/ed me and my other friends currently in power and I would like to keep it that way but I don’t want to do the dirty work myself”.

        Unfortunately most places have a history of the people in power exploiting other groups of people for their benefit, and this is just one way in which it manifests. It feels weird because we know it isn’t congruent with what we’re taught about how people in a society should behave.