I’ll be real, it really bugs the shit out of me that the affluent would rather just bail to Europe and leave the most vulnerable of us behind. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
As long as they personally can escape somewhere safer, they don’t give one single fucking shit about what happens to their less fortunate fellow countrymen. Not all poors are Trumpers. Some of us got fucked by *checks notes… cancer drugs that cost $18k a month. Ask me how I know.
I sneer and look down on every single one of those “talented and smart Americans” who leave their talented, smart, empathetic, and fucked by the economic system of the US brethren behind to rot.
I feel you. I’ve been thinking a lot about my options lately (as I’m sure we all are.) As appealing as the idea to leave the country is, there’s some part of me that’s screaming, “No. Our place is here. These is our home. These are our neighbors. This is our fight.”
I hope those most vulnerable can find a way to stay safe… But as for myself, this system has kept me too poor to afford having kids, let alone owning a house, or any other assets, without hope of affording retirement, trapped in a system where I’m basically a slave running in a hamster wheel… So what have I got to fear? I’m going to stay here and organize.
If you don’t feel like you have any power to influence anything it’s normal to bail.
Clearly the US wants to be fucked up. I’ve been trying to stop that for decades. When should I admit that this is what the country wants and that it’s foolish to think otherwise.
People put their own oxygen masks on first for a reason. If I could leave I’d be gone, too.
Feel free to sneer at me, though. People are all terrible and I’m one of them.
But these people just want to be safe and raise their kids without worrying that some neo-nazis are going to harm them or their kids for having the wrong race or creed.
They aren’t necessarily affluent, though not poor either. Just middle-class progressive people that need to have both parents working to afford a house, car, groceries.
Yes, I am sorry you got f-d by the medical costs. I really wish it were different.
If they really cared about that, maybe they could have tried harder to prevent this from happening in their home country, yeah?
That’s such a cop out. “I just want to raise my family in peace” but not enough to work to create a peaceful society for them. Americans are so god damned selfish and thoughtless about anyone’s future but their own.
Look. I get you. But, it it were up to me, I’d have been gone during the Bush II years and I’m still stuck here.
This place has fucked me up enough already. Despite doing “everything right” in my studies, my first career, in scientific research, died before it began, thanks to the ultra-wealthy causing a global recession. Every day I wonder if it’s going to be the day that I hear that my trans sibling has been taken or died a death of despair. I lost a cousin to cancer because she couldn’t get treatment due to the nazi’s handling of COVID. I’m in therapy because of serious childhood trauma. I’m childless, despite wanting to have children my whole life (have never been in a position to afford them and my spouse is disabled, so, I’ll likely never have the energy to parent anyway). I know that, no matter how much I put into a 401k, it’s never going to be enough for me to retire. The current head of the CDC has suggested putting people like me in forced labor camps.
I spent decades being politically active and trying to get others active, voting, and engaging with reps only to have tankies and centrists actively sabotage any attempt to realistically pull the country Left without the massive amount of death and suffering (especially experienced by vulnerable people) that tankies circlejerk about trying to cause.
Nothing that I do here has any ability to change things in the country for the better within my lifetime, which is likely to be cut short due to living in this country during the ongoing fascist coup that everyone around me is still in denial about. Sure, I help out neighbors and the like as they need it and I’m able. If we meet and you need help, I’ll absolutely help you if I can.
I’m not going to Luigi someone or join the Maquis - I am needed too much by my family. Nor am I going to opt-out - I’m too filled with spite over what was stolen to make things any easier for them. And I’m sorry but, if I can get my family out, I will.
America is not fixable right now. The majority of voters supported a Nazi. The population has to age out before any change can come and that could take 50 years.
Gotcha, fuck the poor, they can die under Nazis. Thanks for your valuable input.
I would like to point out that all the people with halfway decent politics leaving is only going to accelerate how bad things are in the US. You get that, right?
How did things work out for the people that stayed in Nazi Germany? I think people can see where things are going and if they can they are getting out. Life is not fair but you have to do what is best for you and your family.
“We’ll defend those who are less fortunate than us!”
[Loses one (1) election]
“Welp I’m gonna leave the country, and not do anything to help anyone on my way out. I never actually liked any of you, you were just useful tokens for an election.”
They want the poor, disabled, queer, BIPOC, and anyone who is stuck in this hellhole to burn alive. They don’t actually care. If they cared they’d try to help, not leave the country and pretend it’s for our own good. Anyone who can leave the country right now is in a better place than 90% of the people they “care about”.
Yeah they lose every election unless its handed to them on a platter like Biden v Trump.
Love how I’m getting downvoted for pointing out how the well of liberals are leaving the country while acting like its for the good of the poors they browbeated into supporting their bad candidates.
I’ll be real, it really bugs the shit out of me that the affluent would rather just bail to Europe and leave the most vulnerable of us behind. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
As long as they personally can escape somewhere safer, they don’t give one single fucking shit about what happens to their less fortunate fellow countrymen. Not all poors are Trumpers. Some of us got fucked by *checks notes… cancer drugs that cost $18k a month. Ask me how I know.
I sneer and look down on every single one of those “talented and smart Americans” who leave their talented, smart, empathetic, and fucked by the economic system of the US brethren behind to rot.
I feel you. I’ve been thinking a lot about my options lately (as I’m sure we all are.) As appealing as the idea to leave the country is, there’s some part of me that’s screaming, “No. Our place is here. These is our home. These are our neighbors. This is our fight.”
I hope those most vulnerable can find a way to stay safe… But as for myself, this system has kept me too poor to afford having kids, let alone owning a house, or any other assets, without hope of affording retirement, trapped in a system where I’m basically a slave running in a hamster wheel… So what have I got to fear? I’m going to stay here and organize.
If you don’t feel like you have any power to influence anything it’s normal to bail.
Clearly the US wants to be fucked up. I’ve been trying to stop that for decades. When should I admit that this is what the country wants and that it’s foolish to think otherwise.
People put their own oxygen masks on first for a reason. If I could leave I’d be gone, too.
Feel free to sneer at me, though. People are all terrible and I’m one of them.
Dude, I understand your frustration.
But these people just want to be safe and raise their kids without worrying that some neo-nazis are going to harm them or their kids for having the wrong race or creed.
They aren’t necessarily affluent, though not poor either. Just middle-class progressive people that need to have both parents working to afford a house, car, groceries.
Yes, I am sorry you got f-d by the medical costs. I really wish it were different.
If they really cared about that, maybe they could have tried harder to prevent this from happening in their home country, yeah?
That’s such a cop out. “I just want to raise my family in peace” but not enough to work to create a peaceful society for them. Americans are so god damned selfish and thoughtless about anyone’s future but their own.
Look. I get you. But, it it were up to me, I’d have been gone during the Bush II years and I’m still stuck here.
This place has fucked me up enough already. Despite doing “everything right” in my studies, my first career, in scientific research, died before it began, thanks to the ultra-wealthy causing a global recession. Every day I wonder if it’s going to be the day that I hear that my trans sibling has been taken or died a death of despair. I lost a cousin to cancer because she couldn’t get treatment due to the nazi’s handling of COVID. I’m in therapy because of serious childhood trauma. I’m childless, despite wanting to have children my whole life (have never been in a position to afford them and my spouse is disabled, so, I’ll likely never have the energy to parent anyway). I know that, no matter how much I put into a 401k, it’s never going to be enough for me to retire. The current head of the CDC has suggested putting people like me in forced labor camps.
I spent decades being politically active and trying to get others active, voting, and engaging with reps only to have tankies and centrists actively sabotage any attempt to realistically pull the country Left without the massive amount of death and suffering (especially experienced by vulnerable people) that tankies circlejerk about trying to cause.
Nothing that I do here has any ability to change things in the country for the better within my lifetime, which is likely to be cut short due to living in this country during the ongoing fascist coup that everyone around me is still in denial about. Sure, I help out neighbors and the like as they need it and I’m able. If we meet and you need help, I’ll absolutely help you if I can.
I’m not going to Luigi someone or join the Maquis - I am needed too much by my family. Nor am I going to opt-out - I’m too filled with spite over what was stolen to make things any easier for them. And I’m sorry but, if I can get my family out, I will.
You have no idea what they did or did not do.
You have no idea what they went through in the USA.
Look, I get you. I come from a family that actively resisted the Nazi occupation with guns, smuggling and at great risk.
And if it ever came to it, I would stay to fight. That’s just my nature.
But it’s not for everyone.
Why should they go down with the ship?
Put your energy here.
Why should I go down with the ship? What did I do to deserve it?
That’s some soulless selfish bullshit you’re peddling.
I guess sticking around to try to improve things, or hell, working to have improved it before it got this bad, are just too much to ask.
America is not fixable right now. The majority of voters supported a Nazi. The population has to age out before any change can come and that could take 50 years.
Gotcha, fuck the poor, they can die under Nazis. Thanks for your valuable input.
I would like to point out that all the people with halfway decent politics leaving is only going to accelerate how bad things are in the US. You get that, right?
How did things work out for the people that stayed in Nazi Germany? I think people can see where things are going and if they can they are getting out. Life is not fair but you have to do what is best for you and your family.
“We’ll defend those who are less fortunate than us!”
[Loses one (1) election]
“Welp I’m gonna leave the country, and not do anything to help anyone on my way out. I never actually liked any of you, you were just useful tokens for an election.”
They want the poor, disabled, queer, BIPOC, and anyone who is stuck in this hellhole to burn alive. They don’t actually care. If they cared they’d try to help, not leave the country and pretend it’s for our own good. Anyone who can leave the country right now is in a better place than 90% of the people they “care about”.
One election?
Yeah they lose every election unless its handed to them on a platter like Biden v Trump.
Love how I’m getting downvoted for pointing out how the well of liberals are leaving the country while acting like its for the good of the poors they browbeated into supporting their bad candidates.