Sorry, no sneer today. I’m tired of this to the point where I’m dreaming up new software licenses.

A trans person no longer felt safe in our community and is no longer developing. In response, at least four different forums full of a range of Linux users and developers (Lemmy #1, Lemmy #2, HN, Phoronix (screenshot)) posted their PII and anti-trans hate.

I don’t have any solutions. I’m just so fucking disappointed in my peers and I feel a deep inadequacy at my inability to get these fuckwads to be less callous.

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    maybe they always have been and I’ve just not noticed it before

    As someone that was a ‘nerd’ back in the day before Big Bang Theory made ‘nerds’ cool, I’m gonna say that they always have been and you just haven’t noticed before.

    The nerd / tech crowd have always been a bunch of miserable little sexists and dorks with a superiority complex. And half the time that little Timmy got stuffed into a locker or dunked into a toilet, he fucking deserved it. And to me, it’s really no surprise that they’re homophobic and transphobic too.

    If Big Bang Theory was actually accurate, Howard and Raj would be prolific posters on incel forums that whine and gatekeep every time the girls come over and then later whine about being lonely, and Sheldon would be borderline nazi. Not sure about Leonard because even without changing anything about the show, he’s still the only half decent one of the lot.

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      I’d like to see a Venn diagram of computer nerds and incel, goth, trans, nazi, furry, hippy, punk, etc.

      There’s a lot of diversity and I’d guess it would have some correlation with area of expertise.

      I never got the sense that FOSS was particularly incel/anti-LGBTQ. But, tech support, maybe.

      Would make an interesting sociological study.

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        the subtext here that ppl at prestigious universities are less likely to be misogynists… it’s not correct

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          The subtext is anyone educated that pursues higher education are less likely to be incels and have more human interaction, id include community college, which is free in california for the first two years if you qualify

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            I get the reasoning and it makes sense tbh. but having been at these places what I experienced just doesn’t reflect your theorycrafting. if my experience doesn’t line up with “well based on human nature it should be this or that way” I’m going to go with my experience every time

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              Unfortunately the stereotypical asocial shut-in types are not the only ones harboring misogynist attitudes. Unfortunately actually interacting with women doesn’t always make people have respect for them. Either way, there are a bunch of loner types with poor social skills in higher education.

              “Elite” institutions such as Caltech are constantly mired in discrimination issues, and frankly I think some of that is perpetuated by the whole narrative of their supposed prestige to begin with. The need to remain at the top causes such places to turn a blind eye to smart or highly acclaimed people’s misbehavior and lets their biases show in selecting who to let in. Caltech in particular is an engineering oriented school and that field in particular has an ongoing history of hostility to women and minorities.

              On a more personal note, I’m glad you’ve had the introspection to recognize your upbringing-related issues with women and that you’ve seemingly worked to get over those issues. That said, I’d recommend you to avoid things like using genitals as a synecdoche for gender, It reduces people to mere sex objects and bringing up people’s genitals when not called for is generally considered crude and embarrassing.