• @Mongostein@lemmy.ca
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      Not the person that made the joke, but…

      Calling her a dishwasher is based on attitudes where women are the homeworkers. I see the joke as taking the piss out of people with that attitude, not the woman herself. We all know that she is a human being with thoughts and feelings like the rest of us and no one ever thought otherwise.

      • Solivine
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        So it’s funny because some people with that attitude exist, and therefore you make a joke those people would make? How is that different from saying a racist joke and claiming you’re making fun of racists? (non-hostile question)

        • @Duranie@lemmy.film
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          Throw in some subtle nuance in the delivery, and I’ve done similar to basically call someone a jackass to their face.

          For a rough example - attending a kids birthday party in the presence of racist ex-inlaws. Somebody says something predictably racist, I say something obnoxious which on the surface sounds like I might agree with them for half a second, then the realization hits that I was making fun of them and I roll my eyes and walk away.

          • Solivine
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            21 year ago

            I can see how this could be fun to do, I don’t think I’d have the nuance to pull it off though

        • @Footsie5680@feddit.de
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          I mean, you don’t have to get somebody’s humor, but it’s funny because of how shocking and absurd it is. The same goes for some racist jokes imo.

      • @Catoblepas
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        Satire requires a clarity of purpose and target lest it be mistaken for and contribute to that which it intends to criticize

        Archie Bunker is a great example of satire that just reinforced prejudice among the people watching All In The Family who were already bigoted. They don’t see themselves or Archie as the joke. So ultimately you’re just giving air time to bigotry if your satire isn’t both scathing and clear.

        • @Mongostein@lemmy.ca
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          I don’t know who you’re quoting, but it’s not me. I didn’t make the joke and if someone were to be actually misogynist in my life I would speak up about it. This doesn’t bother me.

          • @Catoblepas
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            I know it’s not from you, it’s a quote about satire in general. I posted it because it was relevant to the conversation.

            I don’t think just repeating misogynistic jokes without commentary and then blaming people for not knowing it was actually ironic misogyny and not “real” misogyny is effective at critiquing misogyny or beyond criticism.

            • Solivine
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              21 year ago

              Thanks for your contributions, you put it way more eloquently than I. 🙂

    • @kibiz0r@lemmy.world
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      351 year ago

      Thank you for contacting technical support.

      It appears you’re having a problem with HUMOR.EXE.

      You seem to have enabled LIP (Laughter Integrity Protection) Service.

      You should know that LIP Service does not apply to built-in protocols such as TAB/00, and will cause compatibility issues in certain deployment environments such as EARTH.ENV.

      To solve your particular issue, you’ll want to navigate to the /ASS directory, right-click on HEAD.ZIP and select “Extract”.

    • @lobut@lemmy.ca
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      121 year ago

      This type of humor has already aged. It’ll die soon. No need to think about it.

    • @Rachelhazideas@lemm.ee
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      211 months ago

      Because Lemmy users are 77% men. Jokes like this are excused with ‘satire’ and if you aren’t one of them you wouldn’t get it.

      Inb4 the hate, let me absolve with satire as an excuse before any of you start overreacting.