• Nailbar
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        51 year ago

        The comment above claimed only people who never used PHP hate on it. The point was a counter claim to that.

        • Mike
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          31 year ago

          Ok I can add another group to my list then: bad php developers

          • @ezchili@iusearchlinux.fyi
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            31 year ago

            Good developers don’t get tribal about the tools they use

            It makes them able to switch away from them for better ones

            I use typescript now

            • Mike
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              11 year ago

              This entire thread is a tribal post that I had a problem with!! You don’t seem to understand this but I don’t care.

              • @ezchili@iusearchlinux.fyi
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                Hard sell. Calling people you know nothing about “bad developers” because they don’t like your tool on the other hand, that was cringe as hell and just made you look like you somehow tied your self-worth to php. “If my tool gets criticized; that means I’m being criticized!”

                If you don’t give in to that, you start to see “Oh, that bug wouldn’t have happened if I’d been using [x]” and you become a better developer

                When a woodworker cuts iself with a bandsaw, people who do what you do scream “He’s a bad woodworker!”

                And while they’re screaming, we invented guardrails

              • @ezchili@iusearchlinux.fyi
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                21 year ago

                Pointing out what sucks in a language isn’t tribalism, calling people “bad developers” when they don’t like your tool on the other hand, …

          • @balls_expert
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            11 year ago

            level 1: “this argument is worthless because you are stupid!”

            level 300: “everyone who hates php is just an idiot tbh”

            Just standard discourse from the php community

            • Mike
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              31 year ago

              There are reasons to dislike a language, but there are no reasons to hate a language, certainly not one that is as ubiquitous as PHP. There’s no argument you could make for why someone hates a programming language.

              • @balls_expert
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                11 year ago

                Introducing bugs into code way more often than others with similarly skilled programmers is one good reason to hate it…