• Nailbar
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    51 year ago

    The comment above claimed only people who never used PHP hate on it. The point was a counter claim to that.

    • Mike
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      31 year ago

      Ok I can add another group to my list then: bad php developers

      • @ezchili@iusearchlinux.fyi
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        31 year ago

        Good developers don’t get tribal about the tools they use

        It makes them able to switch away from them for better ones

        I use typescript now

        • Mike
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          11 year ago

          This entire thread is a tribal post that I had a problem with!! You don’t seem to understand this but I don’t care.

          • @ezchili@iusearchlinux.fyi
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            1 year ago

            Hard sell. Calling people you know nothing about “bad developers” because they don’t like your tool on the other hand, that was cringe as hell and just made you look like you somehow tied your self-worth to php. “If my tool gets criticized; that means I’m being criticized!”

            If you don’t give in to that, you start to see “Oh, that bug wouldn’t have happened if I’d been using [x]” and you become a better developer

            When a woodworker cuts iself with a bandsaw, people who do what you do scream “He’s a bad woodworker!”

            And while they’re screaming, we invented guardrails

          • @ezchili@iusearchlinux.fyi
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            21 year ago

            Pointing out what sucks in a language isn’t tribalism, calling people “bad developers” when they don’t like your tool on the other hand, …

      • @balls_expert
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        11 year ago

        level 1: “this argument is worthless because you are stupid!”

        level 300: “everyone who hates php is just an idiot tbh”

        Just standard discourse from the php community

        • Mike
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          31 year ago

          There are reasons to dislike a language, but there are no reasons to hate a language, certainly not one that is as ubiquitous as PHP. There’s no argument you could make for why someone hates a programming language.

          • @balls_expert
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            11 year ago

            Introducing bugs into code way more often than others with similarly skilled programmers is one good reason to hate it…