The 1957 interview shown throughout, the particular segment shown around the 45 minute mark:
INTERVIEWER: Do you believe that the United States should recognize Red China?
HAWKINS: Personally, I think they should.
INTERVIEWER: Why?
HAWKINS: It’s a very big thing […] it’s like saying that there’s a big elephant in front of you and you say he’s not there, until he becomes powerful enough to step on you.
INTERVIEWER: Do you expect that they will become powerful enough to step on us?
The 1957 interview shown throughout, the particular segment shown around the 45 minute mark: