it is still a great list so thanks for getting it back up 👍

but i have a few questions: is there a reason (or privacy concern) why Linux Mint isn’t one of the recommended distros? and am I wrong or isn’t bitward a good privacy friendly password-manager?

oh ok. yeah i did some testing yesterday and it already pissed me off, that it asks you to register your instance… and so I swicthed to snikket :D

i know Signal and use it with a few friends but i am always on the adventure of trying out new ways of communication and that is why i was wandering if Rocket.Chat could be a good privacy messaging option :)

snikket looks really nice. i tried ejabberd but failed setting it up 🙈🙈🙈 but snikket looks promising.

oh ok. I am using Nabu Casa Cloud for mine so i am always online via cloud. i tested it with enabling flight-mode and the app goes directly to the disconnected state. Altought the app I developed for a share grocery-list has the same issue, so I will give HA a try anyway :) so still a good recommendation 😀👍

you might be right about it being a hassle but if someone is asking something like this inside a community about privacy it most certainly does not meet OPs critera :D

thank you for the info. that clears up some doubts I had with xmpp :)

that is an idea I might take :) how does this handle being offline? for example i sometimes lose connection in same stores here, but I still need to at least see the entries on the list :)

kinda funny to recommend Google Keep inside a privacy-community :) but ok, everybody has their threat-modell i guess :D

but why isnt it secure? if you know that the other person is using the same version of omemo it is secure. and if you are self-hosting it, meta-data is no issue either

ok but if I’d recommend a client to the people I want to text with via xmpp I can be certain which client they use. My idea isnt to write with strangers but only with real people I know (friends and family).

I would love to do the same (although not the hardcore step with arch :D) but how would I game and also isn’t the support for drivers sometimes really iffy?

that is only done once at the creation of an account and does not proof that the number ist not saved hashed.

ah ok. that makes sence. so only if the secure channel of the key exchange is somrhow attacked, the encryption can be broken, correct? i dont wanna ever use telegram (not even on 1-1 e2ee chat) but basically they are still bad since they use encryption wich is not a standard and could be compromised?

(i hope thats it with all the question i have 🙈)

ok but if the source of the server is not know, how can the client be save?

I know how e2ee works but couldn’t a bad closed-source server still be a problem?

btw. not trying to call you out, I just really want to know, cuz I cant get my head around it 🙈🙊

but if this is your argument, you could also say that Telegram is good because their client can also be built from their open source. of course you have to activate e2ee on a 1-1 chat first…

good points altough the number is note saved. the hash of the phonenumber is hashed so Signal could not hand out your number, just the hash.

that’s why I love great communities like this one here. you aks one think, maybe totally overthinking and read an answer like this, which helps you realize the overthinking :)

thanks for that. what you say makes sence. I really NEED to make a threat-model to find out, what is worth keeping private and what isn’t worth the trouble.

Thank you :)

oh ok, I have not tried that yet. I have only set up one address which I use yo send and receive from.

about the encryption: I thought the point with e2ee encryption on proton is mainly, that the mails are stored encrypted one their servers so they can not read them or hand them out to anyone.

oh so only when using their client I have the e2ee for the emails on their server? kind of makes sence but def. a point to take into consideration.