The F-35 might have gone wildly overbudget, but it was never going to be out of reach of the US economy. There are over 2,500 orders of it from foreign governments, which run around $80M each. That’s $200B on a development cost of $416B (the >$1,000B figures cited are for total lifetime costs). Given that this was never meant to be profitable on foreign sales, that’s pretty good.
Russia cannot afford a next gen tank and next gen aircraft program (and they’re doing two next gen aircraft, Su-57 and Su-75). Countries in its economic peer group buy their military hardware from bigger countries. They’re trying to pretend they still have the resources they did under the Soviet Union, and they just don’t.
Edit: for another way to look at this, the $416B development cost of the F-35 represents less than 2% of US GDP for a single year and the cost was spread over 20 years. If Russia was able to do it for half as much, it would be about 12% of their single year GDP. They would need to spread the cost over 80 years to get close to GDP percentage parity with the US on this project.
This economic reality is why Putin is so hard for conquering Ukraine, btw. Losing Ukraine was like Texas seceeding.
Yeah, you don’t really need them, and they can be more trouble than they’re worth, but it’s still a very sizable chunk of your resources, population, and technical capability. A chunk that let you play with big boys.
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What stealth alternative would you have? Stealth costs a lot. It’s a steal compared to the f22.
F22 is not for export which makes it much lower volume product and so it has higher unit cost
Plus it’s been out of production for a decade.
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It was a comment of whataboutism
That’s the general feeling from people in allied countries that have been put on the F-35 program.
Other fighters could have been a better match, instead they got the expensive Letherman.
The F-35 might have gone wildly overbudget, but it was never going to be out of reach of the US economy. There are over 2,500 orders of it from foreign governments, which run around $80M each. That’s $200B on a development cost of $416B (the >$1,000B figures cited are for total lifetime costs). Given that this was never meant to be profitable on foreign sales, that’s pretty good.
Russia cannot afford a next gen tank and next gen aircraft program (and they’re doing two next gen aircraft, Su-57 and Su-75). Countries in its economic peer group buy their military hardware from bigger countries. They’re trying to pretend they still have the resources they did under the Soviet Union, and they just don’t.
Edit: for another way to look at this, the $416B development cost of the F-35 represents less than 2% of US GDP for a single year and the cost was spread over 20 years. If Russia was able to do it for half as much, it would be about 12% of their single year GDP. They would need to spread the cost over 80 years to get close to GDP percentage parity with the US on this project.
This economic reality is why Putin is so hard for conquering Ukraine, btw. Losing Ukraine was like Texas seceeding.
Yeah, you don’t really need them, and they can be more trouble than they’re worth, but it’s still a very sizable chunk of your resources, population, and technical capability. A chunk that let you play with big boys.
That said…
Do it, Texas.
You pussies.
Texas is right. Everything is bigger in Texas, including how big of pussies they are for not seceeding. Do it Texas, you won’t.