• deegeese@sopuli.xyz
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    Bit of a red herring to put GDPR in the title when the article is about Lemmy missing key admin functions, and only tangentially how this runs afoul of GDPR.

    TL;DR Lemmy hasn’t implemented image deletion for users or admins, so don’t upload your government ID.

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      Bit of a red herring to put GDPR in the title when the article is about Lemmy missing key admin functions, and only tangentially how this runs afoul of GDPR.

      I haven’t read the GDPR, yet, but it’s still a serious issue – GDPR or not. Imagine if Instagram did that. Everybody would seriously go bonkers and rightfully so.

      System administrators often aren’t software developers. Lemmy users need to trust Lemmy admins and Lemmy admins need to trust Lemmy developers. Maybe not letting users delete any uploaded media isn’t outright illegal, maybe it is. I’m in the camp of it being definitively not cool.

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        Inflicting lawyers on an open source project is a great way to drive off the developers.

        If I hear Lemmy has a GDPR problem I assume it’s lawyer BS only European instance admins have to worry about.

        If I hear Lemmy has bugs in basic CRUD functionality, that’s a real issue.

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            Yet GDPR requires if you operate anywhere but allow European citizens to register, you have to be GDPR compliant as well, or risk being blocked by an entire continent.

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          If I hear Lemmy has bugs in basic CRUD functionality, that’s a real issue.

          Coincidentally I saw bug reports by that person and another person earlier that day (before the blog post was published), including one opened months ago with absolutely no reaction at all of even acknowledging that this is even an issue: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/3973

          I’ve heard from time to time that Lemmy developers can be difficult to work with (I never worked with them, so I make it clear that this is hearsay) but I have the suspicion that there is some merit to that.

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        No, Lemmy servers are not exempt from GDPR compliance. The household exemption (you are not subject to gdpr for private activities) only applies for purely personnal activities. As soon as a service is offered to someone else, the exemption is no more applicable.

        That’s one of the drawback about open-source projects, they are designed to fulfill a need (persistent storage & decentralised communication for Lemmy), and no one give a f*ck about legalities.

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            I’m not so sure about the GDPR status for the Fediverse, I don’t think there’s the law is prepared for “Jerry runs this for people, just for fun”. It’s very much “official organisation” or “money grabbing business” oriented. Someone should fund an actual lawyer to look into this and lay down the real requirements.

            I’m working in the gdpr compiance field ;) Using a personnal device to monitor public space doesn’t fall under the household exception, this solution even pre-dates the GDPR (https://curia.europa.eu/jcms/upload/docs/application/pdf/2014-12/cp140175en.pdf).

            (the case-law is about camera fixed on a private house, but the logic easily translates in a private server grabbing public data).

            but when legal compliance comes up, everybody just sticks their fingers in their ears and pretends not to hear you.

            Just as you did ^^