I’m very rusty here, so please correct me where I’m wrong.
Isn’t most of the radiation that makes it to the earth’s surface from the sun just EM radiation? That acts a lot different than radiation due to nuclear decay. Your use of the unit ‘tons’ makes me think you’re talking about particle radiation, of which the only one that reaches earth’s surface in large quantities would be muons, which may as well be ignored because they aren’t interacting with anything.
The water being released by Japan has the following isotopes:
The discharge of the ALPS treated water into the sea will be conducted after i)
purification/re-purification to meet regulatory standards set based on international
standards with an exception of tritium and ii) to allay the concerns of the consumers, the
target concentration of tritium should be the same as the operational target (less than 1,500
Bq/L, that is less than 1/40 of the regulatory standard value for tritium) by sufficient dilution
(more than 100 times) by sea water, prior to the discharge into the sea, and iii) The total
annual amount of tritium to be discharged will be at a level below the operational target value
for tritium discharge of the Fukushima Daiichi NPS before the accident (22 trillion Bq/year).
So it’s diluted well below internationally accepted concentrations. Moreover, the release is even less than when it was operational!
On average, Americans receive a radiation dose of about 0.62 rem (620 millirem) each year. Half of this dose comes from natural background radiation. Most of this background exposure comes from radon in the air, with smaller amounts from cosmic rays and the Earth itself.
So, cosmic rays contribute hardly (about 4%) any to the radiation we receive every day.
I’m no expert here, clearly, so I’m not sure how to compare these units of radiation with the ones being provided for the Fukushima water release; those numbers are provided in becquerel from the sources I found.
That’s a weird comparison, isn’t the concentration in one place which makes radioactive materials dangerous? (Not saying that the water has enough radioactive material, just saying that comparing it to the sun and the whole world doesn’t make sense).
It’s not weird and does make sense; since the sun’s huge amount of radiation is dispersed around the world, they are asking if so too might this tiny amount of radiation be dispersed around the ocean.
(We should not put down someone for asking questions, learning is good!)
But it’s first released in one place where (if it was in dangerous amounts) it would affect the maritime life whereas the sun is distributed from the start.
The concentration at which it is released is already internationally regarded as safe. They aren’t dumping a high concentration that, by nature of distribution in the ocean, will eventually reach a safe concentration. They’re diluting it to safe levels before they even release it. I’m going to copy part of another comment I made in this thread here:
The discharge of the ALPS treated water into the sea will be conducted after i)
purification/re-purification to meet regulatory standards set based on international
standards with an exception of tritium and ii) to allay the concerns of the consumers, the
target concentration of tritium should be the same as the operational target (less than 1,500
Bq/L, that is less than 1/40 of the regulatory standard value for tritium) by sufficient dilution
(more than 100 times) by sea water, prior to the discharge into the sea, and iii) The total
annual amount of tritium to be discharged will be at a level below the operational target value
for tritium discharge of the Fukushima Daiichi NPS before the accident (22 trillion Bq/year).
This releaes will represent less ocean irradiation than did the operating Fukushima plant.
It’s also all released in one place from the sun… But since the crux of your point seems to be this:
(if it was in dangerous amounts)
And the answer is “it’s not”, it’s all a bit of a moot point. I just wanted to point out the commenter you said wasn’t making sense was indeed making sense since your comment seemed pretty hostile.
The released water has around 1500 Bq/kg. If you were to drink a cup of that water (not even diluted further), you’d get a dose of 0.375 mSv. That’s like 100 flight hours, or an x-ray (depends). Two months of just sitting at home will get you that dose.
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I’m very rusty here, so please correct me where I’m wrong.
Isn’t most of the radiation that makes it to the earth’s surface from the sun just EM radiation? That acts a lot different than radiation due to nuclear decay. Your use of the unit ‘tons’ makes me think you’re talking about particle radiation, of which the only one that reaches earth’s surface in large quantities would be muons, which may as well be ignored because they aren’t interacting with anything.
The water being released by Japan has the following isotopes:
All four of these isotopes decay via beta decay.
So, a comparison to the Sun seems weird here.
Here’s an IAEA overview as of February 2023,
So it’s diluted well below internationally accepted concentrations. Moreover, the release is even less than when it was operational!
This is the quality post that I love getting these discussions. Thanks for the info!
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You’re right and I completely forgot about those somehow.
For pespective,
So, cosmic rays contribute hardly (about 4%) any to the radiation we receive every day.
I’m no expert here, clearly, so I’m not sure how to compare these units of radiation with the ones being provided for the Fukushima water release; those numbers are provided in becquerel from the sources I found.
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That’s a weird comparison, isn’t the concentration in one place which makes radioactive materials dangerous? (Not saying that the water has enough radioactive material, just saying that comparing it to the sun and the whole world doesn’t make sense).
It’s not weird and does make sense; since the sun’s huge amount of radiation is dispersed around the world, they are asking if so too might this tiny amount of radiation be dispersed around the ocean. (We should not put down someone for asking questions, learning is good!)
But it’s first released in one place where (if it was in dangerous amounts) it would affect the maritime life whereas the sun is distributed from the start.
The concentration at which it is released is already internationally regarded as safe. They aren’t dumping a high concentration that, by nature of distribution in the ocean, will eventually reach a safe concentration. They’re diluting it to safe levels before they even release it. I’m going to copy part of another comment I made in this thread here:
Here’s an IAEA overview as of February 2023,
This releaes will represent less ocean irradiation than did the operating Fukushima plant.
It’s also all released in one place from the sun… But since the crux of your point seems to be this:
And the answer is “it’s not”, it’s all a bit of a moot point. I just wanted to point out the commenter you said wasn’t making sense was indeed making sense since your comment seemed pretty hostile.
The released water has around 1500 Bq/kg. If you were to drink a cup of that water (not even diluted further), you’d get a dose of 0.375 mSv. That’s like 100 flight hours, or an x-ray (depends). Two months of just sitting at home will get you that dose.