• herrcaptain@lemmy.ca
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    Congrats, Germany, on doing the right thing. If tobacco and alcohol are legal, weed absolutely should be as well.

    It’s been legal in Canada for a few years now and society hasn’t crumbled as a result. All it means is more tax dollars, less organized crime, and less people being thrown in jail for using a relatively harmless substance.

    Note: I don’t use myself, it’s just a no-brainer to legalize it.

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      I mean, we do still have a lot of politicians saying that it’s super dangerous. Söder is a good example, always saying how bad it is and that he doesn’t want drugs for Germany. He also drinks beer all the time btw. His party (CDU/CSU), who have been in power for the last 16 (or something) years before the current government also said the first thing they’re going to do when they’re back in power is make it illegal again.

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        No, actually they would have loved to make it easy. Yet the EU is opposed to it.

        So now they are doing it in baby steps to get solid data on every step of the way to show the EU rules are bullshit.

        First step: decriminalisation for limited amounts, home growing and private clubs.

        Next step: licensed distribution in selective model regions, documented as per agreements with the EU commission.

        After that: negotiations with similiarly minded EU countries

        Full legalisation can basically only happen with an EU frame work and that will be a marathon…

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          Another thing is that Germany’s parliament is made up of all parties that got over 5% of votes and they get seats based on the percentage of votes they got. That means that you also have parties like the CDU/CSU and AFD there who do everything they can to block the legalization and that also contributes to making it more restricted and complicated.

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        Well, they couldn’t just straight up legalize it because of EU regulations. So they found a weird loophole, and to make that fit with the more conservative folks, they added a bunch of restrictions.

        It’s not perfect, but a good step in the right direction. My hope is, that this will be proof enough to change EU regulations and then do a proper legalization.

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        9 months ago

        Not entirely correct. It’s in line of sight so of course you can consume inside your house or your backyard if that can’t be seen from the spot it’s supposed to protect.

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      9 months ago

      I wish they would apply the same rule to cigarette smoking. So much dangerous smoke and trash everywhere you go.

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    How is anyone supposed to grow if you can only hold 50g at once? Even just one plant will produce more than that.

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      Colorado did the same thing. As of last time I dealt with it, you can grow six plants… which could put out like 12 pounds (5.5 kg) if you’re good at it, but you can’t travel with that because you were only supposed to have one ounce (28g) in your possession. Drive somewhere with 1/2 a lb? Same bullshit as always, second degree felony. The cops managed to to keep it illegal after legalization.

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        I think the main issue is if you want to travel with it, yeah!

        Usually the rule is that in your home you can have the allowance plus anything produced by the plants you grow legally. I’m not sure about Colorado specifically, but I read quite a few of these laws and all the ones I remember said that the excess produced by your plants is fine provided you store it appropriately.

        But yeah you’re just supposed to move it 28g at a time I guess?

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          I tried to make it easy by giving conversions. The only one I didn’t explain is 1/2 a lb which is 8 oz or 225 g, and of course imperial measurements are absurd.

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        So half a pound is 16 ounces.

        Isn’t that a lot to travel around with? It’s been a while since I was around the stuff but I recall an eighth being an okay amount for a few spliffs. Maybe I was just a light weight…

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          No, half a pound is 8 ounces, or 225 grams. Sure, that’s still a lot.

          Yes, it’s a lot, but what if you’re moving houses, going camping, or giving it to someone? It’s legal to give weed to people. It’s like being allowed to brew beer at your house but you can’t leave home with more than a six pack.

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      I’m sure that means in public to transport like, taking weed with you to your friend’s dinner party.

  • AutoTL;DR@lemmings.worldB
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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    Germany’s parliament is expected to partly legalise cannabis on Friday after a heated debate about the pros and cons of allowing easier access to the drug.

    The health minister, Karl Lauterbach, has said he expects that the new legislation would enable the market to be reclaimed from drug dealers who supply many of the 7 million Germans estimated to regularly use cannabis.

    The government said many users rely on the drug for medicinal reasons and that the new law would also improve the quality of cannabis consumed by increasing numbers of young people.

    Doctors against the law change have warned that, on the contrary, it will endanger the health of young people by making the drug more accessible and thus increasing the risk of addiction.

    “In suggesting you can smoke weed instead of getting started in an apprenticeship or job, the coalition government is sending a completely wrong signal to our society, and acting as the state’s drug dealer.

    Advocates for the drug’s use for medicinal purposessaid they are hoping for a positive influence from the decision by Europe’s largest economy and which may pave the way for other countries to follow suit.


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