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    “Most powerful empire the world has ever known”

    Lol Americans

    The Romans conquered the known world with pointy sticks and diplomacy.

    The US hasn’t been on the winning side since ww2 despite having nukes and spyplanes.

    Even the British Empire spanned the globe, and all they had was cannons, rum, and syphilis.

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      Yeah they may not incorporate other countries like previous empires, but their sphere of influence is undeniable unfortunately.

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              One, no empire is “great,” they all suck donkey dick, that’s the definition of an empire, two, the meme specifically states “most powerful.”

              America is objectively the most powerful empire to ever exist, just as the British were more powerful than the Romans.

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                i think the only thing keeping china from taking that top slot is reach and the use of the dollar worldwide. both of those are collapsing. the US might not be the biggest asshole on the planet for much longer

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                  Eh… don’t count on it. China has some significant weaknesses. In the short term, economic growth has slowed significantly. Debt in the private and public sector is having consequences, both in the housing market and elsewhere. In the longer term, China is aging at a faster rate than the US, both due to a low birth rate and immigration rates that are virtually nonexistent compared to the US. China’s GDP is outpacing the US for now, but it’s an open question how long that pace will last.

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                  Yeah, instead we’ll get a nation that treats North Korean workers so poorly they riot and execute the management.

                  Good times for humanity ahead…

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            I just wouldn’t call it an empire, that’s all. I’m not a historian but to me, empires are made by occupying other countries.

            The US is a powerful nation of course, but they don’t have the same focus on conquest as the other countries throughout history have had.

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                That would be interesting, to compare the land mass of the US with the max size of the Roman empire. My guess is that the romans would win by a hair.

                But the Brits would definitely win because they have Australia, which is almost as big as the continental US just in itself, let alone all the other countries they conquered.

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      You seem to completely misunderstand American diplomacy.

      Just because America doesn’t have the same style of conquest, doesn’t mean they aren’t conquerors.

      America was the first empire to realize that all empires eventually fall whose agenda is toppling nations and replacing their flags with their own.

      The USA invented a unique twist: never replacing the country’s flag.

      Instead, as evidenced by countless examples such as Iran and Panama, the American agenda has always been installing a new national leader whose interests align with American ideals of democracy and “freedom” (predominantly of the white Christian variety). But they keep their “flag”, or in some sense maintain a national identity through the new leader, so it feels a lot less like they were conquered.

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        Lol That’s just a bunch of mental gymnastics to justify why the “mighty” US can’t even win a war against an impoverished SE Asian nation with 50 year old Soviet weapons

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        Exactly. Wilson fucked up with Wilsonian Doctrine, among a ton of other things. Teddy had it right. Speak softly and carry a big stick. Get in, get out, get done.