• UraniumBlazer@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    60
    ·
    10 个月前

    Uncool boomers be like: “It’s the damn phones”, when they’ve created cities where 2+ tons of metal can freely roam around wherever they like. They’ve created cities where kids cannot go anywhere on their own without being run over by these said metal beasts.

    But ofc uncle Kevin, “It’s dem damn phones. Can you at least look at me instead of scrolling through Facebook when I’m talking to you?”

    • mods_are_assholes@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      34
      ·
      10 个月前

      It seriously is part ‘those damn phones’.

      I was a kid long before smart devices, cities were the same urban hellscapes.

      Instant gratification from unknown sources under the direction of a 9 year old is a serious problem and people like you who pretend its not are probably part of the generation damaged most by it.

      • UraniumBlazer@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        10 个月前

        Instant gratification from unknown sources under the direction of a 9 year old is a serious problem and people like you who pretend its not are probably part of the generation damaged most by it.

        Eh, I have to agree begrudgingly. I remember having this discussion with someone I know about mental health post smartphones. We came across a few studies tracking mental health of adolescents for the past few decades. To compensate for lack of data (due to lack of mental health awareness, yadayadayada), they tried to inductively predict this missing data using various factors. The interesting part however was the increase in mental health issues in the early 2010s. Now of course, while their data might be quite error prone, I think it makes sense logically.

        1. More exposure to fked up world events (like Gaza, Ukraine, lack of climate action and so on) leads to one being depressed of course.
        2. In my experience, faceless trolls are much worse than in person bullies.

        So yeah, I do agree with you. The situation is not black and white. Unfortunately, the uncool boomers (sorry for the lame term,-I use it to not generalize all boomers) do not see it that way. Banning smartphones in schools is one of the stupidest things to do. Uncool boomers purely blame smartphones, and almost always engage dialog in bad faith. It’s mudslinging basically.

        Now, if I present a nuanced opinion here, it won’t be considered at all. Essentially similar to the “leftist long paragraph” meme. Therefore, to combat this, mudslinging back is most effective. At least it drives home some idea (in this case, the idea of walkable city design). Is this bad faith? Yea, unfortunately. But does it make sense to try to have a good faith dialog with someone who doesn’t want to have one?

        • mods_are_assholes@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          8
          ·
          edit-2
          10 个月前

          Sorry no, there have been several studies about the negative mental health impacts of always on social media life in teens but you just like muddying the waters so you pretend it’s anyone’s game and give a backhand at the end of your drivel.

          Pretty sophisticated but still just forum sliding bullshit.

          Edit: ITT people butthurt about being called out on their toxic social media habits

          • UraniumBlazer@lemm.ee
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            3
            ·
            10 个月前

            Sorry no, there have been several studies about the negative mental health impacts of always on social media life in teens but you just like muddying the waters so you pretend it’s anyone’s game and give a backhand at the end of your drivel.

            I haven’t come across these, but I don’t deny their existence. I just wrote down what I’ve come across myself. I already agreed with you on this point.

            Pretty sophisticated but still just forum sliding bullshit.

            I’m sorry that you feel that way. But as you demonstrated just now, you are not interested in engaging in good faith. You are still stuck on the “social media bad” train, when I already agreed with you on that. This is exactly what I mean by mudslinging. People just want to repeat certain phrases again and again, progressively louder and louder while vomiting ad hominems left and right.

            It isn’t “forum sliding” if the topic is indeed that complex. But as I stated before, you are not ready to move on from “social media bad”. Hence, how can one engage in good faith in such a scenario?

        • uis@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          10 个月前
          1. More exposure to fked up world events (like Gaza, Ukraine, lack of climate action and so on) leads to one being depressed of course.

          What should I do if I live somewhere where fucked up event happens now? Or what kid in Belgorod/Odessa should do?

          1. In my experience, faceless trolls are much worse than in person bullies.

          People have different experiences. Mine is opposite. It happens.

          • UraniumBlazer@lemm.ee
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            10 个月前

            What should I do if I live somewhere where fucked up event happens now? Or what kid in Belgorod/Odessa should do?

            Suffer. Studies like these are American/European centric in the first place. Their sample size never includes other countries (not because the researchers are evil lmao, but because they want to isolate this “phone factor”). A kid in Odessa is most likely suffering from the war today rather than suffering from the effects of Instagram.

    • Ilflish@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      6
      ·
      10 个月前

      Is it the boomers this time? I remember millennials thinking that about zoomers and now they’ve grown up, zoomers have been saying it about Gen Alpha calling them iPad babys

      • UraniumBlazer@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        5
        ·
        10 个月前

        People say many things. It doesn’t change the fact that the ruling class is largely boomers. Hence, addressing the most influential voting class doesn’t seem so absurd to me.

    • uis@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      10 个月前

      Not all doomers did it. But those who didn’t were communists.

    • mellowheat@suppo.fi
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      10 个月前

      Children in countryside are behaving pretty much exactly the same when it comes to whining about smartphones.

      • UraniumBlazer@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        8
        ·
        10 个月前

        Criticizing the ruling class is extremely important to a functioning society. Baby Boomers are largely the ones in power around the world. The largest voting bases of all conservative movements are baby boomers. I wouldn’t mind if the generations that follow criticize us for stuff. That’s just how stuff works.