You know how people get really annoyed with American conservatives slinging buzzwords and generally yapping about something or other thinking they’re making a good point? I think it’s catching on because that’s exactly how I feel reading “genocide-funding octogenarian”.
If you want to guarantee that Trump glides into office, keep acting and thinking like you do. If you are unwilling to criticize what is clearly a losing strategy, then you own the strategy. His policy on Gaza is deeply unpopular on the left and with Democrats.
Did you read the article? Its a complete puff piece trying to wag the progressive dog. And if AOC is such a valuable ally, where is it? Where is the rhetoric that is convincing progressives to support Biden? Where is the support she’s supposed to be whipping up? The left is roundly rejecting Bidens policies in Gaza, and his further and further missteps are showing that actually, bloccing up and supporting Biden may end up being a worse strategy than shuffling things up and finding a more suitable candidate now, because Biden is proving to support policies that are deeply unpopular with the base that would be putting him into power.
Biden has to win Michigan. If the election were tomorrow there is an icecubes chance in hell he wins Michigan. Why? Gaza. Period. Its February and we’re not even half-way through primary season, but the way its shaping up, its in the bag for Trump.
Edit:
Just put together this figure of polling out of Michigan post Oct. 7th.
No amount of AOC cheer leading will fix this. It only hurts AOC.
Idk what the hell you’re on about trying to make me seem like someone from a figment of your imagination. I just said your buzzwords are annoying as fuck. Deal with it with some better use of words and better criticism. I’m not the problem here, you are with your bullshit.
Its just your own vapid opinion what a buzzword is. Calling Biden a geriatric isn’t using buzzwords, its using precise language. I’m making serious points about the viability of Biden as a candidate. He 80+. He’s an octogenarian. He is has previously supported and continues to support the Israeli genocide of the Palestinian people. Burying your head in the sand because your annoyed for hearing the truth isn’t helping Biden. Bidens support for the Palestinian genocide, along with very very valid considerations around his age are looking to cost the Democrats the election in 2024.
I’m making actual points here and you are the one yapping. You deal with that, and if your only opinion is color commentary trying to regulate someone else’s speach, maybe just keep it to yourself.
You wrote a phrase with a hyphen in it. It doesn’t roll off the tounge, it is like a rock in a shoe. The person you are responding to did not like your phrasing (a bit fussy of them, honestly) and you responded with a book and a graph.
This is not how you persuade people. It is kind of funny to watch happen, though.
But in my defense, I see a whole wave of people on here exaggerating the truth and using the same buzzwords, calling anyone who doesn’t agree with them a genocide supporter or accusing them of being scared of the truth. Maybe I’m just paranoid but it seems to me like a concerted effort and I don’t like it.
He didn’t need to circumvent congress to sell weapons for Netanyahu’s genocide. No one was clamoring for it, and no one would have blamed him if he hadn’t done it.
Funny thing is, you’re not the first person throwing that line whenever when called out for this. Nobody’s burying their heads anywhere besides you and your own rear, maybe. What’s next, calling me a genocide supporter next for not agreeing with you?
hearing the truth … Bidens support for the Palestinian genocide … I’m making actual points here
Honey, that’s not the truth, that’s your vapid and exaggerated opinion. If you’re so keen on keeping everyone honest here, start with yourself.
trying to regulate someone else’s speach,
Nah, I told you what you sound like. Or here’s another idea: if you’re so butthurt about people calling you out for using these tired buzzwords or exaggerating your points, then don’t do it to articulate your ideas and grow a thicker skin.
First step first, pull our heads out of our asses and start having a critical discussion about the viability of Biden as a candidate, with an open mind as to having an actual primary. He’s old as fuck and showing it, badly. He’s worse this month than he was last month. An 80 year old man should be gardening and having conversations with the family pets, not making decisions that they’ll never experience the consequences of. Trump being a massive pile of shit isn’t carte blanc to also run a shitty candidate. Maybe he should step down and let Harris take us into November.
Second step, we need to have a reconciling within the Democratic party regarding the failure of leadership they’ve been demonstrating for the past decade. They need to stop treating the progressive wing of the caucus as pariahs. The progressive/ leftist wing of the party has been whats saved their asses every election cycle because the Liberals and center right wings of the party can’t get out of their own way to win an election. Primary debates are traditionally where this kind of debate is held. the DNC didn’t permit this, so it will have to happen in media. Call for these debates now. We need to find a viable candidate that will drive voters to the polls in November.
Third step, is that right now, Biden needs to shift his policy on Israel and the border. He needs to show that if voters tick D’ in November, they aren’t voting for a party further right on Middle East policy than the Republicans. Likewise with the border. The Democrats just took 8 steps to the right on border policy, and got basically nothing for it. Its not clear to me that the mess Biden has set the table with is fixable, but right now.
First step, acceptance. Second step, truth and reconciliation. Third step, re-configuring/ re-align policy.
They aren’t as annoying as people who police anti genocide language. Somehow these same people are gone when the pro genocide crowds makes an appearance on lemmy.
You know how people get really annoyed with American conservatives slinging buzzwords and generally yapping about something or other thinking they’re making a good point? I think it’s catching on because that’s exactly how I feel reading “genocide-funding octogenarian”.
Yesterday the last functioning hospital in Gaza was bombed by Israel. Biden’s approval rating is in the 30’s."
If you want to guarantee that Trump glides into office, keep acting and thinking like you do. If you are unwilling to criticize what is clearly a losing strategy, then you own the strategy. His policy on Gaza is deeply unpopular on the left and with Democrats.
Did you read the article? Its a complete puff piece trying to wag the progressive dog. And if AOC is such a valuable ally, where is it? Where is the rhetoric that is convincing progressives to support Biden? Where is the support she’s supposed to be whipping up? The left is roundly rejecting Bidens policies in Gaza, and his further and further missteps are showing that actually, bloccing up and supporting Biden may end up being a worse strategy than shuffling things up and finding a more suitable candidate now, because Biden is proving to support policies that are deeply unpopular with the base that would be putting him into power.
Biden has to win Michigan. If the election were tomorrow there is an icecubes chance in hell he wins Michigan. Why? Gaza. Period. Its February and we’re not even half-way through primary season, but the way its shaping up, its in the bag for Trump.
Edit:
Just put together this figure of polling out of Michigan post Oct. 7th.
No amount of AOC cheer leading will fix this. It only hurts AOC.
Idk what the hell you’re on about trying to make me seem like someone from a figment of your imagination. I just said your buzzwords are annoying as fuck. Deal with it with some better use of words and better criticism. I’m not the problem here, you are with your bullshit.
Its just your own vapid opinion what a buzzword is. Calling Biden a geriatric isn’t using buzzwords, its using precise language. I’m making serious points about the viability of Biden as a candidate. He 80+. He’s an octogenarian. He is has previously supported and continues to support the Israeli genocide of the Palestinian people. Burying your head in the sand because your annoyed for hearing the truth isn’t helping Biden. Bidens support for the Palestinian genocide, along with very very valid considerations around his age are looking to cost the Democrats the election in 2024.
I’m making actual points here and you are the one yapping. You deal with that, and if your only opinion is color commentary trying to regulate someone else’s speach, maybe just keep it to yourself.
Friend,
You wrote a phrase with a hyphen in it. It doesn’t roll off the tounge, it is like a rock in a shoe. The person you are responding to did not like your phrasing (a bit fussy of them, honestly) and you responded with a book and a graph.
This is not how you persuade people. It is kind of funny to watch happen, though.
I think I’m due for a hot drink and a nice walk.
Fussy?? lol Alright, maybe a bit…
But in my defense, I see a whole wave of people on here exaggerating the truth and using the same buzzwords, calling anyone who doesn’t agree with them a genocide supporter or accusing them of being scared of the truth. Maybe I’m just paranoid but it seems to me like a concerted effort and I don’t like it.
I think Democrats shouldn’t be selling weapons that they know will be used to commit genocide.
Now say “buzzword” a few dozen more times. It’s not changing the fact that Biden supports Netanyahu’s genocide.
I whole agree with you, the US shouldn’t be supporting wars like this. But let’s be real here, pinning a genocide on Biden is a bit much.
He didn’t need to circumvent congress to sell weapons for Netanyahu’s genocide. No one was clamoring for it, and no one would have blamed him if he hadn’t done it.
He proactively supported a genocide.
Funny thing is, you’re not the first person throwing that line whenever when called out for this. Nobody’s burying their heads anywhere besides you and your own rear, maybe. What’s next, calling me a genocide supporter next for not agreeing with you?
Honey, that’s not the truth, that’s your vapid and exaggerated opinion. If you’re so keen on keeping everyone honest here, start with yourself.
Nah, I told you what you sound like. Or here’s another idea: if you’re so butthurt about people calling you out for using these tired buzzwords or exaggerating your points, then don’t do it to articulate your ideas and grow a thicker skin.
Weak non response.
Same here ^
It really feels like a bad chatGPT post. Prompt must have been “say bad thinks about Biden and AOC and pretend you are riding a velocipede.”
Biden’s in the 30’s based on recent polling.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/approval/joe-biden/
No candidate has ever won the presidency polling this low. All current polling shows Trump winning by a landslide.
If AOC is boosting support for Biden, show me it, because I don’t see it. Its not in the coverage, and its not in the polling.
What I see in this article is baseless conjecture. If you see what the article claims to exist, show it to me.
Okay. What viable solution do you propose?
First step first, pull our heads out of our asses and start having a critical discussion about the viability of Biden as a candidate, with an open mind as to having an actual primary. He’s old as fuck and showing it, badly. He’s worse this month than he was last month. An 80 year old man should be gardening and having conversations with the family pets, not making decisions that they’ll never experience the consequences of. Trump being a massive pile of shit isn’t carte blanc to also run a shitty candidate. Maybe he should step down and let Harris take us into November.
Second step, we need to have a reconciling within the Democratic party regarding the failure of leadership they’ve been demonstrating for the past decade. They need to stop treating the progressive wing of the caucus as pariahs. The progressive/ leftist wing of the party has been whats saved their asses every election cycle because the Liberals and center right wings of the party can’t get out of their own way to win an election. Primary debates are traditionally where this kind of debate is held. the DNC didn’t permit this, so it will have to happen in media. Call for these debates now. We need to find a viable candidate that will drive voters to the polls in November.
Third step, is that right now, Biden needs to shift his policy on Israel and the border. He needs to show that if voters tick D’ in November, they aren’t voting for a party further right on Middle East policy than the Republicans. Likewise with the border. The Democrats just took 8 steps to the right on border policy, and got basically nothing for it. Its not clear to me that the mess Biden has set the table with is fixable, but right now.
First step, acceptance. Second step, truth and reconciliation. Third step, re-configuring/ re-align policy.
They aren’t as annoying as people who police anti genocide language. Somehow these same people are gone when the pro genocide crowds makes an appearance on lemmy.
For complaining about the use of tired buzzwords and spreading bullshit? lmao Sure, bud.