The only countries accusing China of mishandling the ETIM in Xinjiang are its geopolitical rivals in the west. Muslim countries and the global south side with China on this.
…separatism and religious extremism has caused enormous damage to people of all ethnic groups in Xinjiang, which has seriously infringed upon human rights, including right to life, health and development. Faced with the grave challenge of terrorism and extremism, China has undertaken a series of counter-terrorism and deradicalization measures in Xinjiang, including setting up vocational education and training centers. Now safety and security has returned to Xinjiang and the fundamental human rights of people of all ethnic groups there are safeguarded. The past three consecutive years has seen not a single terrorist attack in Xinjiang and people there enjoy a stronger sense of happiness, fulfillment and security. We note with appreciation that human rights are respected and protected in China in the process of counter-terrorism and deradicalization.
We appreciate China’s commitment to openness and transparency. China has invited a number of diplomats, international organizations officials and journalist to Xinjiang to witness the progress of the human rights cause and the outcomes of counter-terrorism and deradicalization there. What they saw and heard in Xinjiang completely contradicted what was reported in the media. We call on relevant countries to refrain from employing unfounded charges against China based on unconfirmed information before they visit Xinjiang.
Also you can literally just visit Xinjiang and see it for yourself. There’s no restrictions on travel now that covid is mostly over there. There’s tons of videos on YouTube doing just that.
The U.S. State Department’s Office of the Legal Advisor concluded earlier this year that China’s mass imprisonment and forced labor of ethnic Uighurs in Xinjiang amounts to crimes against humanity—but there was insufficient evidence to prove genocide
Lol?? It falls short of genocide =/= nothing wrong here.
What the fuck is your comment lmfao are you a moron or paid bro
It’s the fucking US state department lmao of course they’re gonna say whatever bs they can. The point is that even they stopped short.
What they have done in Xinjiang after ETIM’s attacks is built vocational training centres, infrastructure, and started integrating it better into the rest of China’s economy, i.e the core material reasons why someone would have to resort to extremism in the first place. Which is a far better response than other countries and has been successful, hence the muslim and global south countries approving of it.
Canada’s residential schools were forced on an entire population. By most estimates, the proportion of Uyghurs in these “camps” is similar to the proportion of Black people in prison in America. Is America conducting crimes against humanity or a genocide on Black people? Ok, maybe.
frankly, the US is STILL fighting in the middle east after 9/11. the chinese has shown more restraint and milder treatment towards their local terrorist group. so i’d say they’ve handled it better than the west ever could.
The U.S. State Department’s Office of the Legal Advisor concluded earlier this year that China’s mass imprisonment and forced labor of ethnic Uighurs in Xinjiang amounts to crimes against humanity—but there was insufficient evidence to prove genocide
So basically you’re saying “don’t worry they’re just doing crimes against humanity but not technically genocide.” Not a great argument IMHO
It’s the fucking US state department lmao of course they’re gonna say whatever bs they can. The point is that even they stopped short.
What they have done in Xinjiang after ETIM’s attacks is built vocational training centres, infrastructure, and started integrating it better into the rest of China’s economy, i.e the core material reasons why someone would have to resort to extremism in the first place. Which is a far better response than other countries and has been successful, hence the muslim and global south countries approving of it.
I live in China and I’ll tell you you’re out of your God damned mind if you think you can travel to Xinjiang easily / all you want. Also, all your other points are wrong, based on very many firsthand accounts and reporting, plenty all over the net.
Don’t we expect to have an increasing number of Chinese people on Lemmy? It’s not controlled by any western government, and they’re ~20% of all people.
True. Just found it extremely unlikely cuz every Chinese person I’ve interacted with deny western media’s claims. And their claim about it being difficult to travel Xinjiang is just wrong after all; same “restrictions” as any other place in China or most other countries.
the people supporting china though are basically russia and a bunch of countries with ties to china and russia in africa ruled by warlords… that’s not really making the case you think it is
“The opinions of the nations we’ve been colonizing and committing genocide on for hundreds of years don’t matter. Only that of the nations that are currently supporting a genocide in Gaza do.”
Bruh the fucking US State department admits there’s no such thing
The only countries accusing China of mishandling the ETIM in Xinjiang are its geopolitical rivals in the west. Muslim countries and the global south side with China on this.
35+ mostly muslim UN states have approved of how China handled this after sending delegates and diplomats to Xinjiang:
And as another user said, this is a great video about Xinjiang with sources in the description.
Also you can literally just visit Xinjiang and see it for yourself. There’s no restrictions on travel now that covid is mostly over there. There’s tons of videos on YouTube doing just that.
Lol?? It falls short of genocide =/= nothing wrong here.
What the fuck is your comment lmfao are you a moron or paid bro
It’s the fucking US state department lmao of course they’re gonna say whatever bs they can. The point is that even they stopped short.
What they have done in Xinjiang after ETIM’s attacks is built vocational training centres, infrastructure, and started integrating it better into the rest of China’s economy, i.e the core material reasons why someone would have to resort to extremism in the first place. Which is a far better response than other countries and has been successful, hence the muslim and global south countries approving of it.
What a strange way to say “kidnaping children and sending their parents to concentration camps”.
Projection. Ig it’s hard for the western mind to imagine a government tackling the material reasons for a problem instead of just harming people.
Sounds exactly like Canada’s residential schools. Which is considered an attempt at genocide
Canada’s residential schools were forced on an entire population. By most estimates, the proportion of Uyghurs in these “camps” is similar to the proportion of Black people in prison in America. Is America conducting crimes against humanity or a genocide on Black people? Ok, maybe.
As a moron has said to me
tHeRe GoEs ThE gOaL pOsT SailInG aWAy
No.
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frankly, the US is STILL fighting in the middle east after 9/11. the chinese has shown more restraint and milder treatment towards their local terrorist group. so i’d say they’ve handled it better than the west ever could.
Lol irrelevant.
China’s treatment of these people is indefensible. Defending it in any regard just leaves you wrong my dude.
Look at all the people being clowns trying to declare nothing is happening because “official genocide” hasn’t been committed
They still don’t call Gaza genocide. Why the fuck are you listening to them about it at all??? lol
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What the fuck are you even trying to say? Do you have brain damage?
The treatment of these people is indefensible. End of statement
Why are you whataboutism any fucking thing? Absurd.
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you got a cult bombing your public buildings for years, and attempts to identify and prevent such attacks by standard means have failed.
how do you stop it?
Bomb where those cult people are from!
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Bruh
The first paragraph of the first link you shared:
So basically you’re saying “don’t worry they’re just doing crimes against humanity but not technically genocide.” Not a great argument IMHO
Right below this comment
I live in China and I’ll tell you you’re out of your God damned mind if you think you can travel to Xinjiang easily / all you want. Also, all your other points are wrong, based on very many firsthand accounts and reporting, plenty all over the net.
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How about we say you’re also from Xinjiang while we’re at it?
[Sorry for a tangent]
Don’t we expect to have an increasing number of Chinese people on Lemmy? It’s not controlled by any western government, and they’re ~20% of all people.
True. Just found it extremely unlikely cuz every Chinese person I’ve interacted with deny western media’s claims. And their claim about it being difficult to travel Xinjiang is just wrong after all; same “restrictions” as any other place in China or most other countries.
the people supporting china though are basically russia and a bunch of countries with ties to china and russia in africa ruled by warlords… that’s not really making the case you think it is
And the people opposing China are universally tied to the US through either NATO, Five Eyes, or US military occupation (Japan, South Korea).
Are you one of those people who think only white people matter?
oh you’re a tankie got it.
ironic since you’re the one literally denying the genocide of a marginized people.
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alright time to block the genocide denier
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Imagine being so fucking racist jesus christ.
“The opinions of the nations we’ve been colonizing and committing genocide on for hundreds of years don’t matter. Only that of the nations that are currently supporting a genocide in Gaza do.”
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this is a great video about Xinjiang
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