• Gladaed@feddit.de
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    Itt: Use Linux Spam. This is not feasible for most users. Not all applicatopns are posted to Linux and some explicitly do not work. In particular for people that play games socially this just does not work. That being said they are unaffected by this change.

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      9 months ago

      Seems like this is a constant spam on Lemmy and it’s starting to drive me away from the platform. So much Linux spam.

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        The Linux proselytizing combined with the rabid impractical political hive mind have combined to slowly take my usage of Lemmy from “increasing and replacing Reddit time” to “flattened out, going back to Reddit a bit” and now it’s moving solidly into the territory of “definitely using and visiting Lemmy less, spending more time back on Reddit”.

        This platform has so much potential, but the community sucks. Which is saying something, given that the chief comparison is the reddit community.

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        I’m sure it wouldn’t be too hard to make something that filtered out all posts/comments containing the word “Linux”, what software do you use to interact with Lemmy?

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          Exclusively Voyager for Lemmy. I’m also not really interested in making custom tools.

          There’s also the problem of that filtering out half of the active content on the platform.

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      At this point the only games that don’t work on Linux are games using kernel level anti-cheats, and these are the largest games out there.

      If you don’t play any of those games then your game most likely works just fine on Linux.

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        This is simply not true. I recently tried Linux for gaming after several years because I read that Valve made some great progress. Installed Crusader Kings III and didn’t get Paradox Launcher to run which is necessary for any DLC.

        This was literally the first game I installed from my huge library and it simpl didn’t work so I had to do two hours of research, trial and error and reading error logs to conclude that I wasn’t able to solve this problem.

        This is the exact reason why I use Windows for gaming. It simply works 99 % of the time. And I don’t have the time to troubleshoot my games all the time.

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          By recently you mean this year? The paradox launcher was broken on the steamdeck a year ago, should be working now.

          Also iirc that game has a native linux version.

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            No, not this year but maybe last fall, early winter. The game itself was running fine but without DLC (which neede the launcher to work) was useless to me.

            Maybe I have to give it another try but this experience was the worst possible advertisement for “gaming on Linux” 😐

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              Maybe I have to give it another try but this experience was the worst possible advertisement for “gaming on Linux” 😐

              I mean there isn’t much more that can be done, these days that is usually the issue with gaming in linux, either the game has anti cheat which you cannot fix or the launcher of the application changes and you have to wait for it to get fixed.

              The good news is that more studios are starting to release native versions of their linux games, so hopefully in the future this isn’t as much of an issue.

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              Its certainly not as likely to run a game as windows, but I also think you just go INCREDIBLY unlucky with your first attempt at a game. The vast majority of games buyable on Steam can be run at this point out of the box (some might be a bit jank for the Steamdeck though)

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          Play Stellaris and problem solved. It works on Linux through steam. Besides you won’t be stuck within a single primitive planet

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          more than 99% of the hundreds of games i’ve ran on linux have worked, it sounds like you got unlucky.

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        I’m finding out that particularly complex modding can be a bit of a pain as well, but thats a more niche category than gaming in general

        (I’m having a TERRIBLE time trying to get Bannerlord Script Extender to work on my Steamdeck)

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          Let me know, or make a big post if you solve it. I haven’t played Bannerlord since switching to Linux and don’t want to dive into a quagmire quite yet.

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            I’ll tinker with it more over the weekend, but I’m fairly new to linux myself, so we’ll see if I can figure it out!

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        This isn’t even true all the time anymore, helldivers 2 has a kernel anti cheat on windows but runs fine under proton!

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        Which is ridiculous because unlike windows, you don’t NEED kernel level access in linux to know someone is screwing with memory but none of the anti-cheat devs are interested in making a whole separate anti cheat for the 2% of linux users.

        If you guys want that, you need to write it yourself and give it to the game companies free, that’s the only way we are getting multiplayer online games in Linux.

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      I’ve been trying to switch to linux on my daily driver for years, and every time I come to a critical issue, I can’t find useful help for it anywhere on the web and I give up and try again next year.

      And this isn’t a skill issue, I’m a 30 year greybeard IT vet that has administered to linux servers since the late 90s. Linux is simply not ready for daily use by your average computer user, and that’s mainly the fault of its fucktastically fragmented environment designed by insular egotists.

      And don’t even get me fucking started on the elitism of people who actually respond to help requests with instructions to read several hundred pages of documents before they’ll even tell you what’s wrong with your question.

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        What average users would need to convert is access to sympathetic and patient support… what they get is obtuse gatekeepers. People who on the one hand think that everyone should use Linux but on the other hand insist that using it means that you’re hyper intelligent, and by extension requires you to be.

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          Exactly this, but their argument fails because even hyper intelligent people get shit on by the linux community.

          They don’t want new adherents, they want people to recognize their decades of reeking basement skillz.