It’s helpful to take a few steps back from time to time to reassess where we’re each coming from on our knowledge of tech (or anything) to better communicate.

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    Basically everything.

    Like, even filling out a basic Excel sheet can be difficult to some people who have absolutely no experience in it.

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      I had to stop watching how other people use computers for my own sanity. Even people who use computers (allegedly) 40 hours a week for the past 20 years are no better than those chimps who learned to touch squares on a screen. If a triangle pops up they start throwing shit.

      But I no longer assume a user knows anything. If someone asked me what a curser was I wouldn’t even blink. The only thing that really annoys me is a refusal to try anything. I don’t even care if you learn about what you are doing, at least try what I’m telling you.

    • Look, I’m a software engineer, and I still fucking hate filling out spreadsheets. I’m honestly at the point where I’d rather make everything a QUERY function than deal with ARRAYFORMULA bullshit. Honestly, if Google Sheets could add SQL language formatting, we’d be golden.

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      I work with people who have no email and use flip phones. Knowing how to do basic formulas in excel is something people in my industry put on resumes as a brag. I blew minds with a pivot table last week.

      Then tech people will come in like “if you dont c38÷<#æ&÷>h§tg your &÷8]ă2& on your ejẅińë6÷&7g/g5 then youre stupid and support facism, you dumb corporate apologist with your basic windows platform.”

      Or at least that’s what lemme feels like sometimes.

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          Manufacturing, not a ton of behind the desk work required. What little office work is required is still often done on paper or on very manual entry heavy basic excel sheets.

          I dont know why tech people always forget non tech jobs still exist. You definetely wouldn’t get paid for just sitting in a chair unless you’ve cracked industrial line automation in a way that should have already made you a billionaire. Still more automation of any kind would also be a good thing in a lot of plants.

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            Pulling a tech worker move, i’d just convince the tech illiterate boss that the excel thingy is too complicated and that i should use all the time i have to handle it while i then make some software that handles that annoying part of the job until it becomes too important that someone has to maintain it. of course, i’d write no documentation so i only know how the program works, as a leverage in case they think it would be a good idea to fire me lmao.

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              You clearly just don’t understand manufacturing. They’d still be willing to fire you and make us use a paper and pencil. In fact if the techs that important then no it isn’t because they don’t trust it, and we’re keeping paper backups anyway.

              I know that because youre in tech you think you can “out smart” the guy who can build a house with a paper and pencil, but I promise that you aren’t half as clever as you think you are.

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            Still more automation of any kind would also be a good thing in a lot of plants.

            Controls engineer here. I will get to you eventually.

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          I automated my workflow once and started drinking heavily. My manager hated my guts but couldn’t get rid of me. So it was just me in a server room reading for 7 hours a day and pretending to look interested during meetings for the other hour.