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The paper included a decade’s worth of data from the Centers of Disease Control and Prevention among Black women ages 25 to 44 across 30 states.
In the U.S., Black adult women are six times more likely to be killed than their white counterparts, troubling new data reveals.
A paper published Thursday in The Lancet medical journal analyzed homicide rates of Black women ages 25 to 44 across 30 states. The data was collected between 1999 and 2020 by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s National Vital Statistics System.
Homicides were classified in this study as death by shooting, piercing, cutting and other forms of violence. Racial disparities varied among states; in Wisconsin, for example, Black women were 20 times more likely to be killed than white women. Black women living in Midwestern and Northeastern states were also more likely to be killed by a firearm, the paper found.
The study was designed to provide more comprehensive data about homicide rates among Black women and fill in the gaps in the existing literature, said Bernadine Waller, the paper’s lead author and a postdoctoral psychiatry research fellow at the Columbia University’s Irving Medical Center.
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The article basically says it’s a pattern driven by poverty and population density. We’ve all heard that explanation before, and it seems reasonable.
But imagine you’re a middle class black woman; how are you supposed to interpret this? I imagine those women (and men too) would have very mixed feelings about being painted with such a wide brush. Not that I’d know, but I would love to hear something from their perspective.
Middle class black parents still have to have conversations with their children that middle class white parents do not have to.
The conversations all involve how to handle police and aggressive white people. Basically, how to de-escalate to avoid death.
While I understand the point you’re trying to make, I think a lot fewer of them would have issue with this characterization than you would think, partially because they have solidarity with their poorer sisters.
It’s easy to have that kind of solidarity when individuals from your community, rich and poor, are constantly targeted simply for the color of your skin.
A 2020 study published in the National Library of Medicine found that Black and Latina women who experienced intimate partner or sexual violence were two to three times more likely to experience abuse or a neglectful response from law enforcement when reporting the incident. Other reasons that may influence Black women’s police engagement for intimate partner violence included institutional racism, self-blame and stereotypical strength, among others.
“When something happens, you’re supposed to be strong,” Cottman said. “But then when law enforcement respond, you’re not seen as the victim because you’re strong.”
Here, now you don’t have to imagine:
https://www.blackpast.org/african-american-history/combahee-river-collective-statement-1977/
This isn’t a new thing. Black women have known about this for a long time.
we find our origins in the historical reality of Afro-American women’s continuous life-and-death struggle for survival and liberation.
we were told in the same breath to be quiet both for the sake of being “ladylike” and to make us less objectionable in the eyes of white people.
let alone cataloguing the cruel, often murderous, treatment we receive, Indicates how little value has been placed upon our lives during four centuries of bondage in the Western hemisphere.
Wait until you see those numbers compared to native American women… It’s a damn disgrace how women born to the minority population is treated when it comes down to it.
IMO the most important variable left out there is economic status. Which is of course correlated, but not caused with or by minority status (due to historical factors).
All of man are the same, but unfortunately our circumstances are not.
What specific part of my previous comment do you disagree with? Your pdf doesn’t conflict with my statement. My point was that the disparities in the criminal justice field we see between races are the results of socioeconomic factors rather than say biology.
This is the best troll destruction I’ve seen in a while. Keep it up!
And congrats on BSc
My point was that the disparities in the criminal justice field we see between races are the results of socioeconomic factors rather than say biology.
I have a disagreement with your strong implication that the criminal justice disparities between races are not also steeped in racism. If you control for socioeconomic factors, blacks are still much more likely to be murdered as well as wrongly convicted and are more likely to be victims of police brutality. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3455929/pdf/11524_2006_Article_337.pdf for evidence of socioeconomic control and my previous article for proof of wrong conviction and brutality.
Why is law enforcement so much harder on blacks and minorities? One possible reason is the infiltration of law enforcement by white supremacists for decades: https://www.justsecurity.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/Jan-6-Clearinghouse-FBI-Intelligence-Assessment-White-Supremacist-Infiltration-of-Law-Enforcement-Oct-17-2006-UNREDACTED.pdf
Racism is a social factor. The ‘socio’ part of socioeconomics stands for social.
I have a disagreement with your strong implication that the criminal justice disparities between races are not also steeped in racism.
I made no such implication.
I made no such implication.
You said “the most important variable left out there is economic status” while minimizing the importance of race. That is an implication whether you like it or not. Social media in general and Lemmy specifically is contaminated with a racist element that will use your statements to justify their beliefs. I cannot say whether you were intentional or not but you should be more careful with your words if your intent is not to embolden those who are perfectly happy with the statistical biases that the articles I have linked contain.
Saying economics are the most important factors doesn’t suggest social factors are un-important. Never the less the two are intertwined. Current day economic situations are controlled by historical social factors.
This is like me saying “I like waffles” and someone hearing “I hate pancakes”.
Black women are murdered at younger ages and higher rates than other women of colour, including Native American and Alaska Native women.
That’s from the paper referenced in the article. I’m reading through it now.
I was working off information from before this. Lots of personal experiences and studies like this https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/66/wr/mm6628a1.htm
This study included 31627 homicide deaths (12243 among Black women and 19384 among White women) from 1999 to 2020.
Holy shit America! Wtf???
Now take into account men are more often killed than women, and this is just women.
UPD. I don’t know why I’m being downvoted. I just point out the total numbers are over twice as much. I do not mean to hijack the conversation if that’s what it is about.
The paper included a decade’s worth of data from the Centers of Disease Control and Prevention among Black women ages 25 to 44 across 30 states.
This seems weirdly specific.
When you do a meta analysis (a study that aggregates and compares the results of existing studies rather than de novo research), you have to work pretty hard to make sure all of the studies you’re using agree with each other on definitions, the ways they aggregate the data, and so on. You have to start out by collecting a large number of papers, and then building around the ones who are most closely aligned with each other on the statistics you’re interested in studying. Some might group ages differently or report causes of death differently in a way that cannot be reconciled in a statistically reliable way.
I was a contributing author on a couple such papers, and I swore never to do them again. They can be very useful, and hopefully this one will be high impact, but as an author they’re an order of magnitude harder to write than just doing a paper on your own work.
If it’s a study they probably should be specific. And that probably makes it easier to process too.
There’d likely be a self identifying trans black woman in the comments talking about how high their murder rates are… but they’re likely busy trying to not experience violence.
