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    For reference: https://www.surviverape.org/forensics/sexual-assault-forensics/rape-exam

    Educate yourself.

    If you find fault in its information… I’m happy to cite other sources… but you will need to specifically point out what invalidates it.

    Rape kits take samples of DNA. DNA is a type of evidence known as “real evidence”.

    Very good. That aligns with what I said.

    You can’t just say, universally that all rape kits are circumstantial. Doing so would be misinformation.

    Yes, the last link was pasted from wikipedia. If you’ve got a better source that says that all rape kit data is circumstantial, please provide it.

    All evidence is circumstantial. DNA confirms the presence of a person. Hair and bodily fluids all indicate the presence of a person. Certainly that can include sex. Sex however does not immediately indicate rape - thus circumstances matter. This defines it as (wait for it) circumstantial evidence.

    Now that we have clarified this basic fact: I cannot help but notice you have somehow not pointed out one incorrect thing with my statement. I’ll forgive you for getting lost in your hand waving- care to try again?

    • 𝕯𝖎𝖕𝖘𝖍𝖎𝖙@lemmy.world
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      For reference: https://www.surviverape.org/forensics/sexual-assault-forensics/rape-exam Educate yourself.

      Providing a link and saying “educate yourself” does not refute this claim. The link doesn’t even mention circumstantial evidence, which is what you are claiming.

      Please provide evidence of your claim that all rape kits are circumstantial evidence.

      If you find fault in its information… I’m happy to cite other sources… but you will need to specifically point out what invalidates it.

      You only need to cite one reputable source. But it has to actually validate your claim is the thing.

      All evidence is circumstantial. DNA confirms the presence of a person. Hair and bodily fluids all indicate the presence of a person. Certainly that can include sex. Sex however does not immediately indicate rape - thus circumstances matter. This defines it as (wait for it) circumstantial evidence.

      So your new claim is that all evidence is circumstantial. Ok, you now have 2 claims to prove.

      Now that we have clarified this basic fact: I cannot help but notice you have somehow not pointed out one incorrect thing with my statement. I’ll forgive you for getting lost in your hand waving- care to try again?

      Well, you haven’t done that yet, but keep trying, champ!

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        https://www.egattorneys.com/circumstantial-evidence-in-criminal-cases

        You can pick through that if you like. I’ve been plenty clear about everything up to this point where you have, at best, resorted to mimicry.

        https://www.dictionary.com/browse/imitation-is-the-sincerest-form-of-flattery

        Compliment received. Thank you.

        I’ll be happy to reengage you if you can provide something worth discussing. But I could have the current discussion path you’ve fallen down with a parrot.

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          I don’t give a shit about debating you bro. I just want you to believe the women in your life when they tell you that they’ve been raped.

          Fuck’s sake man. Get over yourself.

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            This was never a debate. This was the systematic destruction of someone who was either a mid troll at worst or someone virtue signalling at best.

            I’m certain all womankind is thankful for your service. You’ve been a beacon of light in this thread.

            As I said before-
            genuinely: I hope you find peace.

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              This was never a debate. This was the systematic destruction of someone who was either a mid troll at worst or someone virtue signalling at best.

              You’re trolling, right now you do realize.

              I’m certain all womankind is thankful for your service. You’ve been a beacon of light in this thread.

              Shut the fuck up man, if you have something to say say it. Don’t cower out of this.

              As I said before- genuinely: I hope you find peace.

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                Swearing doesn’t make your argument valid; it just tells the other person you have lost your class and control.

                Shannon L. Alder

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                    Considering your fractured view of the world I’m impressed you managed to find your way back.

                    dislike of, contempt for, or ingrained prejudice against women.

                    Equality is none of these things. Further- I respect women enough to not impose the view that they are some “delicate flower that must be sheltered” upon them. Doing so is a disservice, and frankly, is looking down on them.

                    It seems it was virtue signalling after all.