Bologna has become the first major Italian city to impose the limit on most streets, citing safety and livability. But it’s too slow for some: “A city has to move,” one cabby complained.
20mph is School Zone speed. That’s unreasonable. I don’t know how other countries do it, but in the US that’s for a few blocks and it’s only active during the times when children are arriving/leaving school.
As someone who drives many places for their job, this would drive me insane. In fact, it’s so slow that many will probably start ignoring all speed limits, making roads more dangerous and enforcement difficult.
School Zone speed is 15km/h (9mph) in the Netherlands, which is totally reasonable considering all the kids that can and will run on the street. You can usually just avoid those streets and most 30km/h streets (standard speed in neighborhoods).
It is called density. Bologna is five km wide and something like 13km long, although there is a motorway running along a site of the city. So you can be in any part of the city within less then half an hour by car. Bologna has a huge old town, which is not designed for cars at all and you are probably faster with a scooter.
We don’t coddle the auto industry and let them lobby competing transportation out of existence. We’re also not hostile to alternate transportation such as bicycles.
Here in the Netherlands I can bike to the coast in 20 minutes or I can take a 20 minute train to Amsterdam.
That’s unreasonable
Not in a European city.
it’s so slow that many will probably start ignoring all speed limits, making roads more dangerous and enforcement difficult.
@Empricorn@silence7 Also, “the murder limit of 0 is so low that many will probably start ignoring all manslaughter prohibitions, making society more dangerous and enforcement difficult.”
20mph is School Zone speed. That’s unreasonable. I don’t know how other countries do it, but in the US that’s for a few blocks and it’s only active during the times when children are arriving/leaving school.
As someone who drives many places for their job, this would drive me insane. In fact, it’s so slow that many will probably start ignoring all speed limits, making roads more dangerous and enforcement difficult.
School Zone speed is 15km/h (9mph) in the Netherlands, which is totally reasonable considering all the kids that can and will run on the street. You can usually just avoid those streets and most 30km/h streets (standard speed in neighborhoods).
In Seattle, it’s25 MPH on most city roads, also for safety reasons.
It is called density. Bologna is five km wide and something like 13km long, although there is a motorway running along a site of the city. So you can be in any part of the city within less then half an hour by car. Bologna has a huge old town, which is not designed for cars at all and you are probably faster with a scooter.
Welcome to decent city planning.
You should sit in meditation for 20 minutes a day, unless you are too busy; then you should sit for an hour.
We don’t coddle the auto industry and let them lobby competing transportation out of existence. We’re also not hostile to alternate transportation such as bicycles.
Here in the Netherlands I can bike to the coast in 20 minutes or I can take a 20 minute train to Amsterdam.
Not in a European city.
That’s a nice slippery slope fallacy.
@Empricorn @silence7 Also, “the murder limit of 0 is so low that many will probably start ignoring all manslaughter prohibitions, making society more dangerous and enforcement difficult.”
#FuckCars #fallacy
@Empricorn @silence7 In case you’re not being ironic I dare you to get hit by a car that’s moving at 32.19 km/h.
#FuckCars #MetricSystem
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