• SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de
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    10 months ago

    There ARE valid reasons for SUVs.

    no. not really.

    Professionals who need something with storage space for work use vans.

    People who need to also transport a wheelchair will use a different car, that is not terribly to get in and out of.

    SUVs have 0 reasons to exist, especially outside the US

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      10 months ago

      The prices will apply to vehicles weighing more than 1.6 tonnes with a combustion engine or hybrid vehicles, and more than 2 tonnes for electric vehicles.

      Seems like it applies to vans as well

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        10 months ago

        fair enough. But at that point it’s basically another business expense.

        SUVs don’t really do much in the area of “hauling stuff around”. They are really really bad at it, if you compare it to normal transporters

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        Have you been to Europe? Have you walked the streets of Paris? The US was built with enough space being everywhere. American roads are wider, cities are mostly built like square-grids of roads built in a time when cats existed whereas European cities emerged in the middle ages. They’re tightly packed with little extra space. Sometimes (very rarely) here there are old Cadillacs that can be rented for weddings. Seeing one of these cars on the street is an unreal experience. They’re just so huge. They don’t fit on the streets here - and those are cars from the 60s or 70s. Everything seems tiny compared to them. From a European perspective it’s really stupid to build such large vehicles as driving and parking it is much more complicated when everything is build for small cars. Now that SUVs are becoming popular here too it’s just a really annoying. Less parking space per vehicle etc. On cities like Paris - one of the tightest city on Europe this is just annoying. And i haven’t even written about fuel consumption. Paris has had huge problems with smog in recent years.

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        The US is built more for SUVs than places outside it, so they make a little bit more sense than in places like Paris.

        But only a little bit more sense. They’re still obnoxious and far too big in the US.

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          10 months ago

          True, lots of places (but I suppose maybe not everywhere) have really wide roads with tons of lanes so it’s easy to drive around with SUV’s, but this is generally not true in Europe where, even in large cities, often roads/lanes are narrower, making SUV’s unwieldy for those driving around them.

          Then there’s the pollution aspect which I can’t address, but I imagine SUV’s pollute more on average than other cars (and probably Europe is currently being a bit more stingy on allowing this)

      • SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de
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        the onyl reason they exist in the US is because a regulations loophole.

        The EU doesn’t have that loophole, so SUVs don’t even have that reason to exist. Which you can see, as SUVs are super rare in the EU, while they top all car sales ranks in the US in the last couple years

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      People who need to also transport a wheelchair will use a different car, that is not terribly to get in and out of.

      A car most likely wouldn’t work for many wheelchair users who drive because they essentially need something they can just get them and their chair lifted directly into, lock their wheels down and start driving. But that doesn’t require an SUV. A van would work too. That’s what a friend of mine in high school drove.