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“I don’t think people could hold there more than five minutes in this water, especially with clothes on,” he added. It was very good luck this floating sauna was nearby.”
The sauna boat happened to drift by soon after the Tesla ended up in the water, Oslo police said.
Photos show people on the vessel with towels around their waists pulling the passengers out of the water.
“One of the guests came running and told me a car had landed in the water. I accelerated to full speed in the direction of the people,” the sauna boat’s skipper, Nicholay Nordahl, told Norwegian newspaper VG.
“With the help of two guests, we pulled them up. They were able to warm up in the sauna,” he added.
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To anyone wondering. Sauna boats are not common in Norway. It’s not “a thing”. Please don’t add it to the list of Scandinavian stereotypes 🙏
Too late… It’s already ingrained in my mind as “of course they do”
Your friendly neighbour Finland here! We love them sauna boats! They are very much a thing here!
I would move to Finland in a heartbeat if you weren’t all psychotic.
Also is a “friendly” Finn someone who makes eye contact as you pass them?
Psychotic? Are you sure it’s not the Swedes you are talking about? An understandle mistake, I know I couldn’t make difference between Swedes and Norwegians!
Eye contact? Thst too sounds like swedish shenanigans to me! A friendly Finn is one who moves far enough to the side when you pass, you know, to give space. Space is the second thing we love the most right after sauna boats! You know, the personal kind!
I apologize if there was offense. I feel like psychopath was meant as a term of endearment for enduring the cold and the dark, plus the insanely hot saunas you’re capable of (I need a child’s sauna lol) and the ubiquitous rally driving abilities.
The respect Finnish people and other Scandinavians offer in that regard is the polar opposite of American culture and can be viewed as cold by us. I’ve heard that the fake facades we put on are viewed as dishonest and rude by you and I tend to agree. It’s tiring.
Thank you for the clarification, I shall consider us Psychopaths (Proudly, Adored) from now on :D /j nah but honestly speaking like half of us are depressed and the other half is just about to be. Straightforward here doesn’t mean saying what bothers you and we can be quite jealous people. Oh and shame is definitely our national feeling. I’d like to visit America one day and experience the vastness and see if people really are as confident and shamelessly proud as depicted!
Too late I already have. Now I think your whole navy is clothing optional coed sauna boats.
Its true, only about 1 in 5 households own a sauna boat, the rest are govt-owned
So you’re telling me people don’t drive their sauna boats to their job site in the forest where they rake the forest floor?
I think you mean vacuum
Probably are in Finland, though.
I know they’re not actually part of Scandinavia (rather Fenno-Scandinavia), but MAN do they love saunas! They even have a sauna in a Burger King and take sauna tents with them when they go camping!
Too late, henceforth all Norwegians are stamped as people eating lutefisk while steaming in their sauna boat, in a sea of Tesla’s.
Please feed this prompt to an art AI, I want to see
Lol I was thinking the same while writing.
Not gonna lie, the thought of " Well of course they would have sauna boats" did come to mind.
That’s exactly what they would say just to keep all thoee sweet sauna boats to themselves!
Then again, anyone going to Oslo in winter should stop by the floating saunas (preferably Oslo Badstueforening)! I don’t see much point in travelling around in a sauna boat, but the floating saunas are among my favourite things about Oslo. :)
It’s getting more and more common though.
It’s really common here in Sweden. “Bastuflotte” we call them and there are a couple in every lake around where I live.
Aren’t there like a couple dozen of them in Oslofjord?
“It was very good luck this floating sauna was nearby.”
Folks, I think we’ve got ourselves a brand new sentence here.
It sounds like a story from a very young child with very vivid imagination. Sure, Kevin, a floating sauna, that’s enough shrooms for you today.
Young child, shrooms? Are you sure you’re not the one on shrooms?
Yeah you got to make sure they start off with the mild stuff.
I expected another story about a Tesla self-driving passengers to their doom. Instead, “the driver accidentally hit the gas pedal”, so it being a Tesla is really an irrelevant detail. Would the headline have read “Hyundai plunges into Norway fjord…” if it were a different car.
I downvoted because of this. I don’t like Tesla. But I hate this click baiting and lying to tarnish a reputation. Let them do it themselves. They are doing a good enough job.
It’s also the boy-who-cried-wolf syndrome. When you make shit up all the time, no one is going to care when it actually matters.
Where’s the lie
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If the car went in due to driver error, why mention the make of the car in the title?
NYPost is a shitty propaganda outlet by design. Not just because I’m to the left so I hate it. It’s literally the purpose of the site.
So yes, this article ONLY exists to trigger the thought of “electric car bad” in their readers.
Self-driving (er, “”self””-driving) didn’t cross my mind actually. I read:
- driver wealthier than average
- not a parent with more than four kids (Tesla doesn’t make minivans) … (wait the X seats up to 7, though that’s uncommon I think)
- driver not in one of the highest death rate cars
I take your point that the benefits of being able to make these assumptions may not outweigh the downside of potentially misleading people on the potential self-driving aspect.
The sauna boat is the factor
Yeah, I’d definitely have posted it no matter the make of car.
Yeah but would the headline have mentioned the make in that case?
Probably not. A subeditor knows how to get extra clicks.
What a fascinating idea. The story should be entirely about the sauna boat
3 years ago, during peak Autopilot hype, the media absolutely would have plastered “AUTOPILOT FAIL???” all over the headlines. With a quiet retraction the next day with the driver admitting to a manual mistake.
I remember there was one big story about a Tesla that wrapped itself around a tree, caught fire, and occupants died. Instant blame on “Autopilot kills” and “EVs dangerous!!!” even though everyone who actually looked at the facts knew that autopilot won’t even activate on that street and it wouldn’t automatically go that fast.
A few weeks later post-autopsy, turns out it was a drunk dude showing off his car to his drunk friend, treated a residential road as a drag strip, with predictable results.
Its an electric car thing, they have much higher acceleration than most people are used to so people crash them like this.
Perhaps the Scandinavians are right and saunas are the answer to everything.
At the beginning of the pandemic, Finns celebrated the news that alcohol and high heat killed the virus …
Basking in the sauna at sunset in the bay is now in my bucket list
They are plentiful and for rent in Oslo; you can join strangers or book one for your party of guests.
It costs around $18 for a single ticket, or $10 if you’re a member. $250 to rent a floating sauna with room for 12, and options for smaller / larger. All sessions for two hours.
Found the plant from Big Sauna.
Saunas, universal single payer healthcare and 73 different ways to eat herring. Sincerely, am Scandinavian.
Do you have stories of The Great Herring War?
Unfortunately, that was before my time.
Perhaps?
Oh. I thought, like, the whole company plunged off the side of the pier.
What a shame.
Cracking up picturing you legitimately disappointed, licking finger tip, turning newspaper page
Smoking a pipe, in my underpants, sitting cross-legged wearing bath slippers, in a foul brown armchair, fez on head.
Plunging into icy waters and getting rescued by by a sauna boat is some top shelf karma shit
This has to be the most Nordic title I’ve ever read.
Well, what about
Volvo plunged into Norway fjord before ‘quietly awkward’ occupants rescued by passing floating sauna
I have so many questions…
Starting from how would the floating sauna propel itself, and where would I get one?
Starting from how would the floating sauna propel itself,
Nowadays that’s normally done with a motor.
and where would I get one?
Sauna boats sound much more innovative than “full self-driving”.
It’s the future. We’ll look back and wonder why we thought EVs were a good idea while everyone has at least one sauna boat.
We need a new deal - a sauna in every boat.
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-europe-68177125 video of the rescue
Tesla’s come with a feature called obstacle avoidance or something like that which in theory could have prevented this, although even that isn’t a guarantee. It’s also a feature that can be enabled/disabled so it’s possible it was disabled.
In 2022 they said the feature prevents about 40 incidents a day of people pressing the accelerator down instead of the brake.
Stops you from going into the garage door and other various things.
“Here, I’m showing a particular mode of failure of humans where they accidentally press the accelerator pedal instead of the brake pedal. For example, these people are pressing the accelerator pedal thinking that they’re pressing the brake pedal. But the car realizes that they are doing this and are heading towards a collision and automatically cuts out the acceleration, and presses the brake to prevent the humans from colliding."
Edit: Clarity, but also I think the enable/disable is because it does take control away from the driver, and there could be a theoretical emergency situation where one collision by accelerating away, is better than the other incoming collision? Some people might not want to give up that control? Like if you got a semi about to rear end you at full speed, jumping the curb and hitting a fence is probably the better option.
There also needs to be an obstacle in the way for the radar to detect. The low railroad track is probably not enough.
The cars don’t have radar anymore, I don’t think they got rid of it for vision cars?
Even with vision it doesn’t look like a wall or other large object is there to set off the sensor. This probably looks like a speed bump to the camera.
For parking, the vision cars remember what they approached. People say it doesn’t work as good as ultra sonics, but assuming it doesn’t see it as a speed bump vs an object in the way, that should still be okay, at least in theory.
I think the problem here is if you program it to stop when it sees a rail like that, odds are a lot of vehicles might stop themselves on roads and parking lots if they see anything that looks somewhat similar.
You can see the barrier is about boot height though in one of the pictures. I don’t think it’s unreasonable for them to be able to discern that vs a speed bump?
It’s like half raised above the ground, and then half its own height.
I don’t think this feature works at speed either, I think it’s meant for slow/stopped situations?
I wonder if they’d consider raising the barrier as well in a spot like this…
Also, if it doesn’t view it as an object, Tesla should go test some cars against that to help improve it. Test them right there even, it’ll cost them so much money for every failure they’ll get it right sooner than later lol.
The feature is called Obstacle Aware Acceleration.
